Do you have metal building...snow damage?

I have a metal carport in the back yard that I used for camper and trailer storage. Unknown age since it was here when we bought the place 14 yrs ago.
This happened sometime Sunday morning.

Looks like the pop-up is ok ..... homeowners is gonna cover the carport minus the deductible.

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Lizooki said:
I have a metal carport in the back yard that I used for camper and trailer storage. Unknown age since it was here when we bought the place 14 yrs ago.
This happened sometime Sunday morning.

Looks like the pop-up is ok ..... homeowners is gonna cover the carport minus the deductible.

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If you're going to get another one under insurance might as well pay a few hundred dollars extra to get all the bows 3 foot on Center that would pretty much hold up along with the center 12ft braces and the corner 3ft bracing. Just a thought if you choose to get another one.

after walking all over the top of these 24 wide buildings to shovel the snow off 5 foot on Center it's no wonder these pieces of junk collapse 5 feet apart is just not enough strength, I just couldn't believe how flimsy it felt when you're in the middle of that five foot section between each bow. If you get this done in the middle of each bow, this would drastically improve the strength also.
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For what it's worth, if any building over 18' wide doesn't have this kind of bracing minimum than you need to ask for it. Closed in or open. These A frame on 14g hold up flawless. Just in case for those who might get a metal carport/building in the future
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Snow got my girls carport too. Dented up the roof pretty bad on her car.

Makes me want to brace mine up after seeing all these.
 

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seed60 said:
Makes me want to brace mine up after seeing all these.
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I def would. If your not concerned about looks too much, use 2x3/2x4 for fraction of the cost
 
It doesn't matter how bulletproof the roof bracing is. When the legs have no bracing for lateral bending, that's going to be the failure mode. A strong roof with spaghetti legs is still going to collapse.
 
shawn said:
Well, so much for that...

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That's most likely the 15g stuff. They all collapsed. 99% of these manufacturers use 15g for the average carport/building unless specified otherwise. Even then you gotta double check. I know of one company that claims 14g but it's clearly not. Just be ware
 
marty79 said:
That's most likely the 15g stuff. They all collapsed. 99% of these manufacturers use 15g for the average carport/building unless specified otherwise. Even then you gotta double check. I know of one company that claims 14g but it's clearly not. Just be ware
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So you're saying 1/128" of wall thickness means the difference between structural failure and awesomeness?
 
marty79 said:
That's most likely the 15g stuff. They all collapsed. 99% of these manufacturers use 15g for the average carport/building unless specified otherwise. Even then you gotta double check. I know of one company that claims 14g but it's clearly not. Just be ware
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Think about that for a sec buddy... lol yep
 
shawn said:
So you're saying 1/128" of wall thickness means the difference between structural failure and awesomeness?
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I know it sounds dumb but for what it's worth, none of his 14g stuff has collapsed or bowed from any customer. All 47sales that have come in since the storm are the thin stuff. Just by picking up a 6ft piece compared to our 6ft piece very noticeable difference in weight.
And btw, stop saying my "awesomeness". They're not my buildings, Im just vouching for the difference in weight, weldability, and what seems to be more strength that's all.
I built some car ramps from this stuff here ...the center section that's bent meaning thinnest part, carrying the weight of my expedition for days parked on em.
 
If 14 gauge vs 15 gauge (roughly 0.011 inches wall thickness nominal) is the difference between failure and not failure, that's a really marginal design. I would really hope that the difference in number of failures has more to do with bracing and less to do with material gauge, because changing thickness on an inadequate design adds very little to solve the inadequate design.

Basically, if CompanyA uses 15 gauge and CompanyB uses 14 gauge with the same design, and CompanyA has a lot of failures, I'm not buying from either company because they're both poorly designed garbage. CompanyB just needs a little bit more snow before it fails.
 
Fabrik8 said:
If 14 gauge vs 15 gauge (roughly 0.011 inches wall thickness nominal) is the difference between failure and not failure, that's a really marginal design.
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See also 2018 ford truck body parts
 
Fabrik8 said:
I would really hope that the difference in number of failures has more to do with bracing and less to do with material gauge,
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Your right it's both. I guess I was saying all the buildings that have failed with or without bracing we're the thinner gauge material.
 
marty79 said:
I don't get it
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@Fabrik8 explained it well, the diff in those two gauges of metal are not the determining factor in failure I’m no metal expert, or engineer I assure you! I can guarantee that if you load up both gauges of metal, an test the amount of weight/force to cause failure to each of the thicknesses it’s going to be so minimal that it all leads back to design in this scenario. But once again I’m no engineer and I could be 100% wrong!? I’m basing this off my experiences with metal and metal stress. I’m learning just like you tho so I may get flamed for not knowing shit either!? Lmao
 
C.Berry said:
@Fabrik8 explained it well, the diff in those two gauges of metal are not the determining factor in failure I’m no metal expert, or engineer I assure you! I can guarantee that if you load up both gauges of metal, an test the amount of weight/force to cause failure to each of the thicknesses it’s going to be so minimal that it all leads back to design in this scenario. But once again I’m no engineer and I could be 100% wrong!? I’m basing this off my experiences with metal and metal stress. I’m learning just like you tho so I may get flamed for not knowing shit either!? Lmao
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Yeah I understood his point finally and I should've been more clear.
I will say this for sure. Over half the carports/buildings that failed were 24 wide of the thinner 15g stuff no bracing except a 6ft Uchannel up top (pointless).
The 24 wide Classic that we sell (rounded corners/basic deal) NO U CHANNEL at all with our 14g tubing held up everywhere. Both 5ft OC. So I personally don't know the "science of metals" haha but I do know there is difference in the two and noticeable. I too have been surprised at the weight difference between the two different tubing and surprises me too that there is such a difference so I don't know anything else except what I've personally witnessed. I'm not by any means trying to upscale these buildings or the tubing but since I know people will still buy these things, just trying to shed some light on the subject to help someone be a little more aware maybe of what they buy
 
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