FS... Doubler for an XJ

Hey Upnover....hate to break it to ya and everyone else bro....YOU AINT RIGHT, YALL AINT RIGHT, I'M NOT RIGHT. It's not about being right or wrong dude, it's about everyone is different and things work differently for different people. I can wheel a XJ on 36 and 38 all day long and not grenade nothing or kill anyone....WHY? because I wheel different than you...I go slow and steady and know when to let off and go around. As old and MUCH EXPERIENCE you have , WHY AM I TEACHING YALL THIS. you should know this stuff and have learned it along time ago. I've known kids running 44s on 8.25 and D30 with just Chromoly and he 4 years later still never broke or killed anyone.....WHY?? cause he didn't beat the shit out of it and knew his limits. again, why am I teaching this to abunch of pros whose been doing this decades longer than me? I keep asking myself this question. so stop saying your right and i'm wrong. I never claimed to be right, I just claimed and still claim that anyone can run 38s on a XJ stock or with doubler ALL DAY LONG as long as they got some sense and not a complete idiot. are we learning anything yet, point made
 
What I have not seen is:
Pictures of you wheeling,
Anyone vouch for all you claim?
A single word of reason from anything you have written
You take even a single word of advice from anyone,
Never in all my years on this board, I have never seen anyone like you, as in your uniqueness to only believe what comes out of your head, transformed to these pages.


We ALL have come here and learned. I am one of the Old bastards. (OBJ) and I have learned from many of the guys here. I have built some shit, and found out what doesn't work, and much of what does.

The only reason that you have found our community to be unfriendly is that we have a dislike, an allergy to, Dumbasses that just will not listen to any amount of reason. Your ignorance has turned to stupidity.

You have provided a good deal of entertainment to many. To me, you did at first, but now, I really just wish you would go away. Until you can accept that many here are right, and you are wrong, you will never be accepted here or any board of any kind. You are the worst kind of stupid.

Quoted for truth..
 
and someday hope to come out to yall playgrounds and prove that XJ on 36/38 stock can make it around all day without tearing up anything and making back home. i'm that guy, yes I am, to show off what XJs can do with money or without, with built or stock...FYI to ALL:::: ITS ALWAYS AN OPERATOR ERROR MOST OF THE TIME, THAN IT IS A MECHANICAL FAILURE!!!!!POINT MADE beat your rig, brake stuff. baby/finesse you rig and you keep on going and survive for your liking. I should be charging for these lessons I feel...lol.
 
well senor snappy let me give you my mind sir. front the first day I came on this site and started posting I started getting bashed with my first thread of "Cherokee fans check it out" and was about XJ on 38s with stock axles and such. all I got was bla bla bla. Honestly, who gives a dam what you or others have done.....if you guys had XJs on 38s stock and broke the hell out of it...big deal, life goes on but that is not a reason to tell someone else "hey you, you're endangering the lives of those around you and your kids driving that thing" that kind of help is not helping anyone. we teach our kids stuff, they do it anyway like we did growing up so same concept here. I just think let people have fun with their build, let them get creative (which is what I am known for with XJs) and don't steal their joy. I have met so many people in my life who have seen me run 36 TSLs on XJ and they go out and get them and it's the best time of their life but what kind of support would I be and a fan to say "hell no u troll, you'll break your axles on first pothole you hit" now that would've ruined his day, discouraged him from anything fun worth doing to his truck, and making him feel like you gotta be rich to do this hobby. little bit of afro engineering and redneck ingenuity has gotten people very far in their hobbies, especially like this one. so all in all, give opinions to help others but I believe opinions should be made more of a "hey, easy on ....with those size...you could..." I think people on here, like you and others, FORGET WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT WHEELING STYLES and we don't all break shit cause we don't all beat on every 4WD vehicle we build. I have never broken a D35 or D30 in 14 years.....am I a Puss....according to yall I guess so.....do I have fun and enjoy the hell out of all types of off roading.....dam right I do. I just don't beat on my vehicles cause I can't afford to have to Tow it home, leave it in the woods or most likely with so many kids, can't afford to fix it but I still love going on the trails and just being there and doing what I feel comfortable doing to a safe manner that will not break my stuff. I have always impressed people that I don't brake stuff but I just keep telling them...if you beat on it, it's gonna break. My motto is if I can't crawl through it and keep RPMs under 3800 or so, than I just give up and move around until someday when maybe I can afford to build something to really romp down on it and beat up the trail. sure I guess I'd like to meet some of these guys someday and wheel together, but not for one minute do I have anything to prove to anyone about me or my vehicle. I am who I am, I wheel how I wheel, it works for me, and I have fun doing it. As far as illegal wheeling, Sampson is totally legal according to Caldwell County Sheriff Department and I only go maybe twice a year with a big crowd from here. I know about working hard for trails, keeping it clean and respectful and representing this sport the best I can, but if a spectator were to ever "read in" on some of these forums, I think they might find some surprising comments and such that wouldn't necessarity give us, the OFF Road Clubs, a good name.

I only hope this message to inspire others to learn to be more friendly with others in the future and think before they post and think of how it might really affect that persons spirit about their truck or dreams. If you can't build someone up, than don't speak at all and let your own junk stay in your own trunk otherwise inspire others to follow their dreams and goals with their builds no matter what route they take. Life and Trucks are full of imagination and who are we to take that away from others!!!
I didn't bash you on your thread.... But here is a little something you may not know... We did give a fuck about you and your family. We (members of this board) lost a good friend not long ago in Harlan on a gravel road in an Xj with big tires because of a ball joint failure so yes we do know what it is like to bury someone we know because of it. I never had an Xj with 38's but have had 3 xj's on 31-35 and knew when to stop....


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and someday hope to come out to yall playgrounds and prove that XJ on 36/38 stock can make it around all day without tearing up anything and making back home. i'm that guy, yes I am, to show off what XJs can do with money or without, with built or stock...FYI to ALL:::: ITS ALWAYS AN OPERATOR ERROR MOST OF THE TIME, THAN IT IS A MECHANICAL FAILURE!!!!!POINT MADE beat your rig, brake stuff. baby/finesse you rig and you keep on going and survive for your liking. I should be charging for these lessons I feel...lol.

Until that day comes, its not going to do you any good to continue to try and prove your point with words. Just my .02

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well senor snappy let me give you my mind sir. front the first day I came on this site and started posting I started getting bashed with my first thread of "Cherokee fans check it out" and was about XJ on 38s with stock axles and such. all I got was bla bla bla. Honestly, who gives a dam what you or others have done.....if you guys had XJs on 38s stock and broke the hell out of it...big deal, life goes on but that is not a reason to tell someone else "hey you, you're endangering the lives of those around you and your kids driving that thing" that kind of help is not helping anyone. we teach our kids stuff, they do it anyway like we did growing up so same concept here. I just think let people have fun with their build, let them get creative (which is what I am known for with XJs) and don't steal their joy. I have met so many people in my life who have seen me run 36 TSLs on XJ and they go out and get them and it's the best time of their life but what kind of support would I be and a fan to say "hell no u troll, you'll break your axles on first pothole you hit" now that would've ruined his day, discouraged him from anything fun worth doing to his truck, and making him feel like you gotta be rich to do this hobby. little bit of afro engineering and redneck ingenuity has gotten people very far in their hobbies, especially like this one. so all in all, give opinions to help others but I believe opinions should be made more of a "hey, easy on ....with those size...you could..." I think people on here, like you and others, FORGET WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT WHEELING STYLES and we don't all break shit cause we don't all beat on every 4WD vehicle we build. I have never broken a D35 or D30 in 14 years.....am I a Puss....according to yall I guess so.....do I have fun and enjoy the hell out of all types of off roading.....dam right I do. I just don't beat on my vehicles cause I can't afford to have to Tow it home, leave it in the woods or most likely with so many kids, can't afford to fix it but I still love going on the trails and just being there and doing what I feel comfortable doing to a safe manner that will not break my stuff. I have always impressed people that I don't brake stuff but I just keep telling them...if you beat on it, it's gonna break. My motto is if I can't crawl through it and keep RPMs under 3800 or so, than I just give up and move around until someday when maybe I can afford to build something to really romp down on it and beat up the trail. sure I guess I'd like to meet some of these guys someday and wheel together, but not for one minute do I have anything to prove to anyone about me or my vehicle. I am who I am, I wheel how I wheel, it works for me, and I have fun doing it. As far as illegal wheeling, Sampson is totally legal according to Caldwell County Sheriff Department and I only go maybe twice a year with a big crowd from here. I know about working hard for trails, keeping it clean and respectful and representing this sport the best I can, but if a spectator were to ever "read in" on some of these forums, I think they might find some surprising comments and such that wouldn't necessarity give us, the OFF Road Clubs, a good name.

I only hope this message to inspire others to learn to be more friendly with others in the future and think before they post and think of how it might really affect that persons spirit about their truck or dreams. If you can't build someone up, than don't speak at all and let your own junk stay in your own trunk otherwise inspire others to follow their dreams and goals with their builds no matter what route they take. Life and Trucks are full of imagination and who are we to take that away from others!!!

To clarify and quantify this statement,
Snappy did not bash you in THAT thread.
I did you dipshit!
Midol will ease the cramps.
 
Hey Upnover....hate to break it to ya and everyone else bro....YOU AINT RIGHT, YALL AINT RIGHT, I'M NOT RIGHT. It's not about being right or wrong dude, it's about everyone is different and things work differently for different people. I can wheel a XJ on 36 and 38 all day long and not grenade nothing or kill anyone....WHY? because I wheel different than you...I go slow and steady and know when to let off and go around. As old and MUCH EXPERIENCE you have , WHY AM I TEACHING YALL THIS. you should know this stuff and have learned it along time ago. I've known kids running 44s on 8.25 and D30 with just Chromoly and he 4 years later still never broke or killed anyone.....WHY?? cause he didn't beat the shit out of it and knew his limits. again, why am I teaching this to abunch of pros whose been doing this decades longer than me? I keep asking myself this question. so stop saying your right and i'm wrong. I never claimed to be right, I just claimed and still claim that anyone can run 38s on a XJ stock or with doubler ALL DAY LONG as long as they got some sense and not a complete idiot. are we learning anything yet, point made
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To clarify and quantify this statement,
Snappy did not bash you in THAT thread.
I did you dipshit!
Midol will ease the cramps.

(Applause followed by standing ovation)
 
Hey Upnover....hate to break it to ya and everyone else bro....YOU AINT RIGHT, YALL AINT RIGHT, I'M NOT RIGHT. It's not about being right or wrong dude, it's about everyone is different and things work differently for different people. I can wheel a XJ on 36 and 38 all day long and not grenade nothing or kill anyone....WHY? because I wheel different than you...I go slow and steady and know when to let off and go around. As old and MUCH EXPERIENCE you have , WHY AM I TEACHING YALL THIS. you should know this stuff and have learned it along time ago. I've known kids running 44s on 8.25 and D30 with just Chromoly and he 4 years later still never broke or killed anyone.....WHY?? cause he didn't beat the shit out of it and knew his limits. again, why am I teaching this to abunch of pros whose been doing this decades longer than me? I keep asking myself this question. so stop saying your right and i'm wrong. I never claimed to be right, I just claimed and still claim that anyone can run 38s on a XJ stock or with doubler ALL DAY LONG as long as they got some sense and not a complete idiot. are we learning anything yet, point made

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Let me speak your language.
iam a vinegar n water douchebag n i say yous guys rjus triiing to confuz me
Now i say,
Go Blow a Goat Asshole!
Do not fuck with Upnover,
Because i said so,John Fuller in Boone,
You will regret it.
Just saying.........
 
no disrespect to lost friends at all so don't take me the wrong way but everyone always uses one guy incident with XJ ball joint breaking and losing their life. One: I make sure I keep up with my basics on my trucks especially one that family rides in and even if its only me, Two: sorry guys but that can happen and does happen everyday in camrys, corollas, neons, chevys, yotas, etc....so personally I get tired of hearing only xjs as an example of people loosing their lives. I had a friend in Raleigh Roll his XJ on 35 down too steep a grade (cause he's a dumass and didn't know when to quit) but hell, what are we supposed to quit wheeling because of someones dumbness, me and my buddies grieved and all but life goes on man, people make bad decisions and then just sometimes bad things happen for no good reason (the enemy is out to get those he fears most"). I guess along with this point goes that you guys miss my quotes where I posted that my ball joints and wheel bearings get new HD ones put on before I even consider it trail worthy. people sink money in chromoly and stuff, I don't.. I sink money in the basics that will get me to and fro safely so that's why I drove that ASU jeep for 9 months on 39.5s with not even one bit of worry because I trust my work and the quality parts I put on it and doesn't have to be tons and crap (it still drives today thank you very much). if you calculate the $ it costs to replace all balljoints, wheelbearings, steering arms, and calipers/pads/rotors along with u joints and such, that's not cheap but that's how someone like me can run what I run for so many years worry free. Only real idiots take a XJ on 35s or bigger on stock stock diffs with old joints and bearings and run around the streets and woods beating on it. As for the ones who just have had a real unfortunate luck, it happens and we move on but that's not to stop people from enjoying something they love doing. Might as well tell all the hunters out there to stop hunting for ever because of one or two who have been friendly fire shot accidently!! SO please, use better points made. I've lost several good friends to the off roading sport but it doesn't stop me from doing what I most love doing and never will. I am just a little more cautious of "preventative" maintenance before I go out and every weekend I check my stuff for play and wear.
 
Massingill sells what you need.
Let me speak your language.
iam a vinegar n water douchebag n i say yous guys rjus triiing to confuz me
Now i say,
Go Blow a Goat Asshole!
Do not fuck with Upnover,
Because i said so,John Fuller in Boone,
You will regret it.
Just saying.........
oooooo, someone is throwing threats out here......Don't get your panties in a wad dude. I ain't messing with nobody but you sir have now crossed the line once again as I believe it was you before a year ago who did it then. There's no need for threats as such on here or anywhere. IF your a grown man, than act like one. Otherwise, keep the shit talking as shit talking and "messing" as you guys say, but threats.........I don't take that funny or joking at all so please refrain yourself from speaking out with such impulsive remarks. thank you
 
Meh.
My dad told me to never argue with an idiot.
Because the idiot will drag you down to there level and beat you with experience every time.
With that being said,
Go Blow A Goat!
 
Meh.
My dad told me to never argue with an idiot.
Because the idiot will drag you down to there level and beat you with experience every time.
With that being said,
Go Blow A Goat!
boy ur mature. you know as much crap as you talk, it seems that it's probably all your good for. and you seem to like animals a lot.......a lot a lot.....?????
 
Meh.
My dad told me to never argue with an idiot.
Because the idiot will drag you down to there level and beat you with experience every time.
With that being said,
Go Blow A Goat!
guys like you is why I will never come hang out at your fancy events. if they are full of goat blowing ass wipes, no thank you!!!
 
boy ur mature. you know as much crap as you talk, it seems that it's probably all your good for. and you seem to like animals a lot.......a lot a lot.....?????

Saved forever!
 
guys like you is why I will never come hang out at your fancy events. if they are full of goat blowing ass wipes, no thank you!!!
Dont worry, they're mostly normal folks, like yourself, at these events..not all are as you described. Some of us don't even like goats or wipe our own asses, much less a goats ass.
 
I read some old threads from this guy. Wow. :eek: :eek:
 
Is it just me or does 88jeeptard miss the effin point of pretty much every response and focus completely on the perceived bashing he is getting from everyone. Then he tries to associate himself with any group of jeepers or xj drivers in a ill fated attempt to foster some sort of brand loyalty to gain support of his moronic ideas and actions.all the while operating with complete disregard for common sense and public safety.why does this idiot feel that his use of inferior components due to budget constraints is some how a groundbreaking idea
 
Dont worry, they're mostly normal folks, like yourself, at these events..not all are as you described. Some of us don't even like goats or wipe our own asses, much less a goats ass.



Look Froto, there is nothing "normal" about me or most of the ass wipers on here... :flipoff2:
 
Hey Upnover....hate to break it to ya and everyone else bro....YOU AINT RIGHT, YALL AINT RIGHT, I'M NOT RIGHT. It's not about being right or wrong dude, it's about everyone is different and things work differently for different people. I can wheel a XJ on 36 and 38 all day long and not grenade nothing or kill anyone....WHY? because I wheel different than you...I go slow and steady and know when to let off and go around. As old and MUCH EXPERIENCE you have , WHY AM I TEACHING YALL THIS. you should know this stuff and have learned it along time ago. I've known kids running 44s on 8.25 and D30 with just Chromoly and he 4 years later still never broke or killed anyone.....WHY?? cause he didn't beat the shit out of it and knew his limits. again, why am I teaching this to abunch of pros whose been doing this decades longer than me? I keep asking myself this question. so stop saying your right and i'm wrong. I never claimed to be right, I just claimed and still claim that anyone can run 38s on a XJ stock or with doubler ALL DAY LONG as long as they got some sense and not a complete idiot. are we learning anything yet, point made


This is the most obvious clue that this guy truly does not have a freaking clue. I wheel ALL DAY LONG and trust me i have sense and am not a complete idiot and guess what?. Shit still breaks, you are OFF ROAD, not on a road. If you had a road to wheel on it would be called "Roading" but there ain't a road, so its called "wheeling" you can't always "let off and go around". I am not a pro and have only been doing this for a couple of years. I'm fairly local to you because Ive seen you roll over a curb or two in the Fairvalue parking lot in Granite Falls, and i'm in Boone quite often, not impressed. If / when i see your rig again, I'll be sure to tell you in person.
 
My motto is if I can't crawl through it and keep RPMs under 3800 or so, than I just give up and move around until someday when maybe I can afford to build something to really romp down on it and beat up the trail.


"Crawling" with a doubler at 3800 rpms is romping in my book. You must be doing something right...
 
This is how the thread has gone for me:

Forum Members: We dont care about your wheeling experience we are saying you need an attitude adjustment
Jeepster: well I had an XJ on 38s once and I drove it through the mud differently than you do
Forum Members: no no no we are saying that you are combative and wearing feelings on your sleeve, of course youre gonna get messed with online when you do that
Jeepster: Will just because I aint rich doesnt mean I cant drive an XJ on 38s
Forum Members: ok screw it I give up with this guy
Jeepster: I had a friend who drove an XJ on 38s and he climbed over a rock and didnt break stuff. He knew his limits...UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE
Forum Members: *crickets*
Jeepster: XJs are cool
 
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