"Gonna do it right...maybe!!??" Fuller's new XJ build!!!

1stgenxxx said:
What are you to use to link material? Might be able to save some cash by using bushings on one end and heims on the other
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While it wouldnt flex the best, you could use stock control arm bushings at both ends on the control arms. I would use heims on the upper.

You will want .250 wall lowers atleast. Also want 2"+ diameter tube also.
 
So I'm seeing kits with 8 links 1.25heims for around 360ish..is that good deal/best deal?
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
While it wouldnt flex the best, you could use stock control arm bushings at both ends on the control arms. I would use heims on the upper.

You will want .250 wall lowers atleast. Also want 2"+ diameter tube also.
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Well I figured that but sounds like wouldn't hold up or not very long on these axles if I understood people's comments right...or am I wrong
And 2" .120 Dom for lowers isn't strong enough?
 
marty79 said:
Well I figured that but sounds like wouldn't hold up or not very long on these axles if I understood people's comments right...or am I wrong
And 2" .120 Dom for lowers isn't strong enough?
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You want 2" diameter minimum and 1/4" wall minimum on the lowers.


You can get 1.25" heim set for $47 and 7/8" for $30.

So $320 for enough to do one end of the rig, plus tubing.
 
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Here's mock-up of coil bucket and how spring sits..
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Good gawd! That's a tall freakin spring!

Another user of gasless flux wire, I see. That's my choice too.
 
Scooter402 said:
Good gawd! That's a tall freakin spring!

Another user of gasless flux wire, I see. That's my choice too.
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Well this time I'm just lightly welding everything on then take it to work and really burn it in but yes I love my Lincoln 140
 
Is it good enough to weld it up ....(beefy enough) or add another brace underneath
 
marty79 said:
Is it good enough to weld it up ....(beefy enough) or add another brace underneath
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If it were mine...I'd add another piece of plate at the corner adjacent to your spring "pad" (bucket?). You can weld across it fully, and down both verticals. Not so much to box it in fully to the axle tube, but to add some lateral support so the side plates will not want to fold over. I see that the top plate is likely going to be welded to the center section, but I'd add another in (front and back) for additional support.
 
skyhighZJ said:
Drill a hole in the center of where the spring will sit then weld a nut under the plate so you can bolt a retainer plate of some description to hold the spring during your flexing sessions.
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What he said. Good catch, I didn't see that was missing.
 
Scooter402 said:
If it were mine...I'd add another piece of plate at the corner adjacent to your spring "pad" (bucket?). You can weld across it fully, and down both verticals. Not so much to box it in fully to the axle tube, but to add some lateral support so the side plates will not want to fold over. I see that the top plate is likely going to be welded to the center section, but I'd add another in (front and back) for additional support.
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It's gonna be boxed in to axle and control arm tabs come off that
 
If you have the pieces (long enough) make the upright side pieces go over the axle AND back to become the LCA mounts so there aren’t more welds in the mix. Not second guessing your ability to weld but structurally it is a better design. Cap, box, reinforce the two pieces but make the LCA pieces continuous if that makes sense.
 
skyhighZJ said:
If you have the pieces (long enough) make the upright side pieces go over the axle AND back to become the LCA mounts so there aren’t more welds in the mix. Not second guessing your ability to weld but structurally it is a better design. Cap, box, reinforce the two pieces but make the LCA pieces continuous if that makes sense.
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I'd like to but don't have em. All good don't mind the extra welding.
 
skyhighZJ said:
If you have the pieces (long enough) make the upright side pieces go over the axle AND back to become the LCA mounts so there aren’t more welds in the mix. Not second guessing your ability to weld but structurally it is a better design. Cap, box, reinforce the two pieces but make the LCA pieces continuous if that makes sense.
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Hah...was just drawing something like that up in my mind. That would be much more structurally sound.

Chip board or cardboard is your friend when designing brackets, tabs, and mounts! :D
 
Did I mention I finished my cage.. HOLY moly lol I think it's plenty strong
I had materials and cut and notch at work so why not, it was quick to make em all and we'll w feel pretty confident about it!!
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marty79 said:
I'd like to but don't have em. All good don't mind the extra welding.
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If you don't have the pieces like that big enough, I'd make the LCA mounts at least partially wrap the tube and not just be relying on a T-joint with the cap on the back of the bucket.
 
You gonna finish up those tack welds, right? :D

That looks like a gorilla cage from the zoo! I don't know how tall you are, but you might need a helmet on the bumpy sections. Don't crack that coconut!
 
If you want I have a bracket set here at the house. If you pay the shipping plus say $20 I’ll put em in a flat rate box. Took pics of one side but have enough pieces to do both sides and they have integrated shock mounts.
 

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Dude, that's a freaking deal right there...

If he doesn't take them, I just might have to....
 
skyhighZJ said:
If you want I have a bracket set here at the house. If you pay the shipping plus say $20 I’ll put em in a flat rate box. Took pics of one side but have enough pieces to do both sides and they have integrated shock mounts.
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Dang I just finished burning in all the brackets. That is a good deal, thank you very much. I've been so eager to get going on this so I tend to hit it full throttle once I get going.
 
For the money I'd do square tube lowers
 
Bought em a long time ago when I was contemplating a 1 ton swap but went with a full truss that had the mounts integrated. If I remember these are from Barnes.
 
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