If you want or need a CDL...

kaiser715

Doing hard time
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Jun 1, 2006
Location
Pocket, NC
Get it by February 7, 2022. After that, you can no longer self-study, and have to take a course.

(far cry from when I got my CDL in the early 90's....grandfathered in, so I didn't have to take any tests. The only questions were "do you want CDL-A or CDL-B" and "what endorsements do you want on it")


https://tpr.fmcsa.dot.gov/Resource/Open/eldt-overview
Note: Beginning February 7, 2022, entry-level drivers will be subject to the requirements in the Entry-Level Driver Training (ELDT) regulations. This includes drivers applying to:
  • Obtain a Class A or Class B CDL for the first time;
  • Upgrade an existing Class B CDL to a Class A CDL; or
  • Obtain a school bus (S), passenger (P), or hazardous materials (H) endorsement for the first time.
 

PAT Ventures

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Sep 21, 2009
Location
Wentworth, NC
How times have changed.
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I could drive anything with this license. Just had a minimum test score and pay the fee. Not even a road test.
 

shawn

running dog lackey of the oppressor class
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Mar 13, 2005
Location
Raleigh, NC
How is class C impacted? Occasionally get asked to drive a 15 passenger van and have been wanting to get legal...
15 total occupants is under the limit unless it's over 26k gvw
 

shawn

running dog lackey of the oppressor class
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Raleigh, NC
Who in Raleigh has a truck & trailer that gross over 26k? We can line people up for their road tests.
 

shawn

running dog lackey of the oppressor class
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Raleigh, NC
So what does that mean in terms of getting the class C? I’m sure it’s just a matter of reading but nice to get a knowledgeable POV. :)
I'm not sure why you need a CDL, or why you think you might.
 

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Ralph Graw
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May 19, 2005
Location
Raleigh, NC
I'm not sure why you need a CDL, or why you think you might.
My reading on the DOT site leads me to the conclusion that a class C is required for 15+1 driver vehicles. It was not many years ago but that changed. If it’s changed back or is dependent on gvw then what I’m reading is confusing. Not an unusual condition for me…
 

XJsavage

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shawn

running dog lackey of the oppressor class
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Location
Raleigh, NC
My reading on the DOT site leads me to the conclusion that a class C is required for 15+1 driver vehicles. It was not many years ago but that changed. If it’s changed back or is dependent on gvw then what I’m reading is confusing. Not an unusual condition for me…
15 total is okay. 15+1 requires a P endorsement and at least a class c cdl
 

StretchASU

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Oct 17, 2006
Location
Creedmoor, NC
Something to think about for anyone going to get this before the cutoff, air brake AND manual transmission are add ons now. So if you want them, make sure your road test vehicle has both.

Guess I’ll quit putting this off and go get the class A before February.
 

ghost

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May 25, 2006
Location
Hartsville/Camden,SC
And….

Supply chain issues will further continue with this planned restriction. :rolleyes:
Yea the driver shortage started with ELD's IMHO. It's getting worse and this will definatly not help. However, most all large trucking companies have driver training programs.
 

jeepinmatt

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So since were on the topic, and this isn't really off topic...If I were to get my CDL, when I do I have to use log books? My truck is tagged for 26k, not 26001, and I'm not hauling for profit, and not hauling for hire. I like being legal, but absolutely despise paperwork and innefficient BS. I've been throwing around the idea so I could go over 26k if needed and still be legal, but I don't want to have to suddenly keep log books every time I drive my truck.
 
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StretchASU

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Location
Creedmoor, NC
So since were on the topic, and this isn't really off topic...If I were to get my CDL, when I do I have to use log books? My truck is tagged for 26k, not 26001, and I'm not hauling for profit, and not hauling for hire. I like being legal, but absolutely despise paperwork and innefficient BS.

This is where I get confused and the DMV does too when I have checked. I am tagged for 26000 but GVWR combined on door and tongue tags of my truck and gooseneck is +26k.

We had a thread on this a while back and by the book, the Troopers don’t care about our plate number. It goes by the combined GVWR of the truck and trailer. 14k truck + 14k trailer = 28k and over the limit for a normal Class C card and we are going to kill buses of nuns without getting a Class A.
 

jeepinmatt

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This is where I get confused and the DMV does too when I have checked. I am tagged for 26000 but GVWR combined on door and tongue tags of my truck and gooseneck is +26k.

We had a thread on this a while back and by the book, the Troopers don’t care about our plate number. It goes by the combined GVWR of the truck and trailer. 14k truck + 14k trailer = 28k and over the limit for a normal Class C card and we are going to kill buses of nuns without getting a Class A.
In that regard I'll play ignorant if I'm grossing under 26k.
 

Tom@Hilltop_Machine

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Mar 31, 2005
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Rural Retreat, VA
So since were on the topic, and this isn't really off topic...If I were to get my CDL, when I do I have to use log books? My truck is tagged for 26k, not 26001, and I'm not hauling for profit, and not hauling for hire. I like being legal, but absolutely despise paperwork and innefficient BS. I've been throwing around the idea so I could go over 26k if needed and still be legal, but I don't want to have to suddenly keep log books every time I drive my truck.
Mind you my commercial motor vehicle training was back in 2008 so things may have changed. We were taught that you are not commercial if you are not hauling persons or property for profit. Therefore no log book, no DOT number required, and other federal requirements.
 

cranbiz

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Nov 11, 2015
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Wentworth, NC
Makes me happy that I have keep renewing my Class A CDL with a Passenger endorsement even though I haven't driven professionally since I moved to NC.
 

jeepinmatt

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Mind you my commercial motor vehicle training was back in 2008 so things may have changed. We were taught that you are not commercial if you are not hauling persons or property for profit. Therefore no log book, no DOT number required, and other federal requirements.
So what if I'm hauling stuff to go make money, but not hauling for money?
 
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