job openings, anyone?

Whatever you find, don’t be scared to take a position and pay you are uncomfortable with. If you are worth it, you’ll work your way up quick.


Right out of college, well, out of college where I took a break from school, I took a construction laborer position because I needed a job and $ and took what I could. I could weld but they weren’t hiring for welders. Oh well. I took what I could.

On the job I showed my skills and what I could do and in 2 weeks was a welder getting welder pay. In 6 months I was one of 6 foreman, youngest foreman ever in the company, less than 21 running field crews in industrial construction with crew guys 50 and 60 years old on my crew. 2 years later I was offers a project manager position at just 23 years old. I have since moved on to better things, but that work ethic and reward will be with me forever.

The point is, just take what you can get and be humble. Work hard and be a good employee and your value and worth will take you places you never imagined. Don’t tell everyone how good you are, show them.
 
A Job sucks, no way around it! Unless you're the boss (then it really sucks), watching people with your personality come and go doesn't bother me! Go ahead and be king of turd island. I've been working current job for 8 years, last job for 5, I have worked hard for the companies, been well compensated for my time, not always "happy", but I work for my family!
 
Ron said:
The problem is...when you are laying conduit that takes 3 guys to run, you are only as fast as our slowest guy. Plus I dont want it done fast I want it done safely and right. And nothing will speed up the dozer or the man lift.

BTW take this advice or ignore it - your choice. Be very, very, very careful with you by job pay in NC. I once sat in court and saw my company found guilty for illegal wage practices for failing to pay minimum wage to a guy who made $95,000 that year. He had carefully proven that for a specific 2 hour period he made less than $4.25/hour for those 2 hours only. (That dates the story a bit) Despite the fact that I think he made $1,500 hat week and only worked like 30 hours we were found to be in violation of wage laws and paid a fine of over $50k. For it. Yes we had an attorney and a darn good one.
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It's funny that you bring up running conduit. It's actually illegal to pay piecework as an electrical contractor in NC. All of your employees must be w2 w4 hourly employees.
 
I see that in these 3 pages everyone has the idea that I go around bragging about my work ethic and awesomeness. Apparently I have misled! I don't say anything at work or to the company or other employees...I am the opposite of that actually. I am one of the most humble people you will ever meet if you got to know me.
Yes on here at this moment in discussion I brag about my work ethic just for the sake of the topic of discussion but at a work place, I keep to myself, I am as polite and friendly as you'd expect, and no I don't brag to other people or bosses until and only IF i choose to try and speak up after descent amount of time has gone by that I feel the need to speak up about an issue or bonuses/raises. Sure in the initial interview i tell an employer what I'm looking for and tell them I will work very hard and such but that's that.
When I feel the need to speak up due to whatever the issue is, I usually leave rather than speak up. I don't like confrontations ever since I left my past life. I study people and their character and morale and like my current employer, when I see how they/he treats others with no respect, no appreciation, demeaning and just wrong than I clearly would never attempt to talk to someone that has already shown me those traits cause well....it would be pointless.
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A Job sucks, no way around it! Unless you're the boss (then it really sucks)
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sorry bud I have to totally disagree with this on both points. I love work Period!! I love being my own boss!! It was the most successful I've ever been and I got more work done than I ever dreamed possible and customers loved that. My own hours, my own pace, my own jobs, and nobody to worry about. It's my dream someday to open a "real jeep shop" ...like through the books lol. I'me very organized person though, clean freak, neat freak, don't require much sleep and don't mind hard work. In boone my favorite thing to do was start a engine "refresh" I call it, not "rebuild", after dinner and work all night and all the next day to get that person back on the road quickly when they had no transportation...that to me is why I love working for myself cause I'm crazy enough to do it and love it and was making good money at those jobs. But I'm weird like that lol
 
Honest question.

When you turn in your 2 week notice (if you don’t turn in a notice your a d-bag) have any of your employers tried to keep you in any way? Offer you more money or ask what they could do to keep you?

If not your not as great as think. Period if you were as good as you say no one would want to see you leave.


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I'm an employer.

Keep your head down, do your job, don't worry about what the other employees are doing- that's the supervisor's job.

You're paid to do the job well, safely and effectively.

It's not the company's problem what your home situation or financial situation is. It's your employer's responsibility to provide you a safe and stable work environment.

I would not hire someone who has bounced around from place to place. There's a reason that is occurring.

My advice is to stick it out where you are or if you must jump ship, jump somewhere where you commit to staying long enough for your worth to be noted. But you have to realize there is a ceiling to most positions and that's just reality.

Good luck man.
 
Loganwayne said:
Honest question.

When you turn in your 2 week notice (if you don’t turn in a notice your a d-bag) have any of your employers tried to keep you in any way? Offer you more money or ask what they could do to keep you?

If not your not as great as think. Period if you were as good as you say no one would want to see you leave.


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ok that's a legit question. most jobs I have turned in notice, others I haven't. The ones I did yes they tried to keep me but I did't stay because again, I'm very good at observing and reading people or a business and how they operate, what they do, don't do, goals, so forth and so on. Once I see enough of what I don't want and am not looking for, I usually make up my mind to move on. If I don't give a notice that's because they have already done me wrong, ignored me or my discussions and they're just plain crappy place to work.
To me money isn't the big deal maker, the job and happiness and environment with employees/employer mean more. I have and can still deal with lesser pay for my good work but when people (bosses/management mostly) start to act retarted and show their true colors, nope not gonna have it. Life is too short and precious to go to work everyday where we spend just as much time at as we do with our families and being at a miserable job is just not in my book. I've met more people in my life that are miserable at their job but stay just cause it pays good or benefits but I don't see it that way. Work goes home with you everyday weather we want it to or not....Especially if it's not somewhat descent place to be. Life has enough of it's own issues and hardships and sadness but to me, a place I spend 10hrs a day or so does not need to be more hassle added to that. Again it's different but it's just how I view things.

Right now I have a lot to think about as usual when thinking of leaving a job cause the 2 things I have at current job are pretty great:
descent pay 17hr
flexible schedule..I can leave and come whenever I want since I stay ahead and can get my work done so quickly so that is very very hard to give up, this I know. so I'm more or less trying to see what out there as a real career opportunity but not just another "job" but def not in a hurry to go jump out without thinking it over completely
 
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It's funny that you bring up running conduit. It's actually illegal to pay piecework as an electrical contractor in NC. All of your employees must be w2 w4 hourly employees.
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You know that case I mentioned ...it was a hotel. Guess what they was...
 
Well this has been an interesting read...

From the most recent Fuller response I will say I have worked with and had many work for me with the same attitude about reading people and the company. All were self righteous shit stirrers that dragged the whole team down.

Coming from someone who has worked for some very large companies and has helped grow a startup, there is one thing that carries over no matter the structure...mind your business, work hard, give it time (see:important) and you will go far. The dynamics of all businesses can change so quickly that 3-6months really doesn’t mean squat. I could go into a long winded story of experience but the short of it is stop trying to read your bosses, companies etc and just work. Show you can roll with the punches instead of just move on at the first sight of what you don’t want. All that shows me is you’re good at quitting.
 
I left my last job after 5 years. It was a tough decision, but I had literally worked through the entire company...every area. I started at 13 an hour and left at 15.76 an hour. Mind you, I'm a machinist.

The company covered our insurance, sometimes we got bonuses, and we worked 5-3, Mon-Thurs. It had it's pros, but I felt pretty underpaid and was seeing more and more of the owner's family soaking up the good money doing made up positions.

I left and my next job started me 9.19 an hour more with MUCH better insurance, leave time, and retirement. I don't regret leaving one bit. I've been at my "new" job almost 3 years now and I've damn near doubled my hourly pay.

My point is...I stuck it out until I couldn't any more. I also have a skill set that allows me to make good money and be marketable to many employers. That's important.

I may not always like my current job, but that doesn't matter and won't matter when I retire at 57 with 32 years in, a nice retirement, damn good health insurance, and I can go do whatever I want! I'm playing the long game!
 
StretchASU said:
y I have worked with and had many work for me with the same attitude about reading people and the company. All were self righteous shit stirrers that dragged the whole team down.
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well no offense but you workin with the wrong crowd then. The only "team" I bring down (if I'm working with other team members) is the slackers who drag ass all day forcing us (the good workers) to pick up their slack and just put up with it...which then becomes management issues and above. I will recall the time I sent my "team member" home on my 3rd shift production job because he thought it was cute to come in every night talking with people...having a blast, nobody cared either including management until the next morning when 1st shift realized they didn't have all their steel ready...months of that crap and yeah I sent his butt home. My supervisor thought it was pretty funny that he actually listened to me (considering I wasn't in any leadership role lol) but he also took my side and agreed that he had to pick up his slack or hit the road. That's me though, I'm a leader not a follower! I keep quiet and to myself but work related with a crew I take charge when needed and yes I get pissed off pretty badly when I'm hustling because there is production that needs to be done and others are just slugging along ...this is why I won't ever do production warehouse jobs anymore.
I do best working alone, yes fact. I am a good team player too but don't have any tolerance for slackers or jokers, not when it's time to work. I have excelled in management jobs due to this confidence and boldness but usually with "that crowd" I'm not "cool" so to speak (not there to be "cool" but get work done). I managed a 14-18 man crew at ASU for almost 2yrs then we lost the contract but that was one of the best jobs I had besides working for myself. This whole "team player" term is being thrown around in this thread the wrong way, at least the way I see it. Team players/team workers are workers/employees of the same mind and work performance (should be) to have the same outcome and productivity at that said job. That is why I don't go to work to make friends and such. Making work "friends" for me is a by-product of working well together to achieve positive results for us and the company but when one or more of those "team members" isn't doing their part, yeah we have a problem. It's not about minding your own business either because in most jobs where there are team members, it takes the whole team to achieve the daily goals and work needing performed so the ones not doing their part are/will affect everyone else, period! That is the difference between working solo vs working with others on productivity or any given task. I just happen to be "that guy" that will speak up sooner than later to those not putting in their effort the minute I notice management not doing it or caring to attend to the problem. This is why I steer away from "team effort" jobs, usually does not work well in general speaking. As previously mentioned I take my work too seriously and maybe even act as if I was in a leadership position but the way I see it, when it's not being addressed while in plain sight someone has to take the initiative.
I will say I have never been disciplined for taking/acting out as leader/supervisor when not in the actual "position"...on the same not those few times it's happened they never followed up with any offer or attempt to really dig deeper into fixing problems. All in all I can appreciate all these different views on worksmanship, leadership, business ethics and such. I've seen some perspectives that are "new" per-say (weather I agree or not) and just talking this out has really helped relieve some work related stress and frustration just spending some time discussing things. I do have an opportunity to look into next week so we will see how that looks while taking all this in over the weekend to figure out what's really the right step to do.
 
Jody Treadway said:
jump somewhere where you commit to staying long enough for your worth to be noted.
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this is really the #1 reason I started this thread just to see if anyone had leads to any opportunities from here while doing my own hunting/thinking.
 
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The only advice I can give you Mr. Fuller has to do with my recent decision to leave my job of 9 years, which was my 3rd job in 23 years of working.

Long story short, I have always felt I could do a better job than the people I worked for. So a month ago, I decided it was time to see if I was correct in this assumption.

Two weeks in on doing my own "thing". To be honest I have yet to make a cent doing this, but time will tell.......

But I can honestly say when I have come home from working my butt off, and exhausted in these 2 weeks I have never been happier..........
 
Leaders are put in place by the people they serve. Tyrants/dictators assume the role and act the part without concurrence.

Have you been sought out and put in place as a true manager/leader? It sounds like you just take on that role at will without being put in that position. This is likely one of your issues...
 
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I've been with my current employer for about 17 years. He's an asshole, but a hard worker. He pays me well, but I'll be quiting without notice when my wife passed her bar exam .


On a serious note, I wish I worked for someone else. 5pm would be done and on my time. My phone rings 24/7.
 
for all the hard workers, go getters, etc, etc, etc, a tale....

Spent a year and a half on a job. Did what was asked, no more, no less. Didn't brown nose, office politic, didn't worry about coworkers job performance or their personal lives. Wasn't the best employee, wasn't the worst.

Boss came to me and said "We've noticed you're not working 40 hours per week. You were hired as a full time employee. Is there a reason you've only been working 32 hours per week since we hired you?"

I calmly looked at him and said "because I can't make it on 24" and went back to work.

Enjoy what you do and don't worry about the incidentals. Value your time off more than your job. Live within your means, you'll be a better person and employee.

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Loudmouthbass said:
Value your time off more than your job. Live within your means,
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believe me this holds truth more than you know. At the end of the day, that is the deal breaker for me with current job is I can leave whenever I want, work 50hrs or 30hrs as long as I do what's needed. It is and has been the only reason I can tolerate the owner daily knowing that I'm running the shop by myself and have the freedom to take off when needed.
 
You do realize you get paid to do said job. If it were all candy canes and root beer we would do the task for free.
Sometimes you have a boss, supervisor, task, whatever that isn't what you prefer. But as long as the environment is safe and within the realms of reason, you gotta suck it up and be a man (or woman).
 
Jody Treadway said:
You do realize you get paid to do said job. If it were all candy canes and root beer we would do the task for free.
Sometimes you have a boss, supervisor, task, whatever that isn't what you prefer. But as long as the environment is safe and within the realms of reason, you gotta suck it up and be a man (or woman).
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yes I know this. I should've known better to take this job working solo for a "private business owner" but he spoke a really good game and such so I got sucked in lol. At the end of the day though, I know I took it for 1. good pay, 2. knew I'd work alone with very flexible schedule so yes putting up with him and his junk is not desirable but since he's gone pretty much all day I only see him in the morning for about an hour at most then I'm all alone so it's not too bad. The future here just isn't looking good with some recent business decisions he made which happened to threaten my job security. When confronted him about my job security was told I'm good...we will see. That's kinda what got me start looking when my job was threatened due to his business decisions...long story there
 
Honest question.
You make good money with a flexible schedule and your boss isn't around much.
What more do you want/expect? That's pretty solid if you ask me.
Not being a hard ass with what I am about to say. This doesn't necessarily apply to you, but to a broad range of people.
Sometimes people have to accept their role in a business or organization based on their credentials, education and/or skills
Aside from running your own business, you may be somewhat limited in reality vs expectations.
It seems you historically focus on what the job lacks as opposed to what it gives
 
Jody Treadway said:
Honest question.
You make good money with a flexible schedule and your boss isn't around much.
What more do you want/expect? That's pretty solid if you ask me.
Not being a hard ass with what I am about to say. This doesn't necessarily apply to you, but to a broad range of people.
Sometimes people have to accept their role in a business or organization based on their credentials, education and/or skills
Aside from running your own business, you may be somewhat limited in reality vs expectations.
It seems you historically focus on what the job lacks as opposed to what it gives
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Your totally right. The guy, despite I only see him for little bit unless he gets rained out, He's just one of those people that very hard to work for..suppose gets under my skin one too many times. There's more to it just don't wanna get into it but I know the pros I have there vs the bad. This really did start with my job security being threatened 2weeks ago and just kinda ran with it...he tells me otherwise but I don't feel any better about it just cause he "says" so. I suppose I'm more or less keeping my eyes open "in case" I'm out of a job all of a sudden. (kinda hard to make sense of my point without me getting into the situation)
 
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