I heard that upnover guy wheels a range rover his mommy drives him to soccer practice in. Young whippersnapper trying to tell the real pro from boone how to wheel. Shit I bet upnover ain't ever been to the flats bet hedvpiuss hius pants if he went well hardcore like john jeepster .... Upnover is just jealous of those thornbirds and sat Jeepster cut vem up.
i just now realized maybe i did get a little arrogant, just a little but i have my reason: before my first trip out, many if not everybody was pretty much making bets i couldn't leave the parking lot without breaking sooooo, after the second trip of lot of fun and accomplishments without a single hickup...yeah i guess i felt the need a little to shut some people up who put down my "abomination build" but it didn't seem to work lol. everyone still doubts the abomination jeep and me so i guess i'm gonna have to go farther with it on the next trip lol
those are not my current arms, i admit i screwed them up horribly but got another set and used those to mock up the proper measurements but even still as ghetto as they are, i'd run them without issues ever but the new ones i had to make longer so that's the only reason they aren't being used currently. so what, they're ghetto hacked up cheap ugly and horrendous looking...big deal. I'm not ashamed, embarrassed or one bit worried about them. It's my personal jeep and if you can't tell, don't care what my jeep looks like or what i build on it as long as it does what i want/need it to.
you obviously don't know XJs like i do. Short arms suck, ride like crap, flex like crap and well just hinder the front suspension a lot. Long arms on the XJ is like the #1upgrade for the suspension and the ride quality and flex you gain from it speaks for itself. Clearance? not really since i didn't build my jeep for Rock Crawling and i have banged them up on some rocks out there (don't know which trails) and have held up just fine. I landed on the right front control arm fist time up Easy St on that boulder at the beginning when i picked the wrong route and it sounded horrible but the "angle Iron" control arm held up great while landing and sliding off it however the 2x4crossmember didn't hold up so well, lol...it actually got a descent little dent in it but the arms are plenty strong. I think i hit that stupid boulder several times before i figured out a way to maneuver around it properly (dam rocks, i'm all new to "rock crawling type stuff so it took me a few runs up to learn to drive properly over rocks that were too big for my clearance/diffs but finally got the hang of it)
actually they are but more like a mid-arm in stock length so i lengthen them a little more to be closer to long arms. I never have moved the axle mounts higher even though i really really want to because i don't have the proper tools to cut the mounts rounded like that and that's something i don't want to be ghetto with...not when it comes to axle mounts. someday when i can get a plasma cutter, i will def get into this but until then i choose to leave em be.
if you haven't noticed LOL, grinder and cutting/measuring isn't always my best friend. (referring to the picture of those ghetto 3 times cut arms lol). ADD gets the best of me sometimes so i stay away from some stuff. i have greatly improved my travel in the front as of a week ago and plan on improving it even better over time (rid of spacer, install full springs and even longer shocks than what i have now) so the long arms are for that reason too. plus as long as i've been tinkering with XJs, long arms make a huge difference in general when you've had/gone through as many as i have.
btw, that's just it with the Jeep XJ...long arms put the arms on a lifted jeep closer to better angle than short arms. u ever seen short arms on a 6"lift...they are way out of geometry compared to stock so long arms running back to the crossmember puts them at a closer parallel angle with the ground like factory to get as close to factory angle as possible. For street driveability this is a MUST if you want a XJ to ride halfway descent lifted up that high or higher but for off road only, short arms do the job ok i guess but for me, why not. it's no money involved for me, just time and practice
you think i'm lying but if enough people had several sets...i would def make another exo cage out of them for body protection and looks cool. so laugh all you want...i still loved the way that jeep looked. to each their own right.
it might have...
that is the new generation of control arms...get with the times man...
where's that picture that someone posted of the guy screaming "Hide Yo Trampolines"
