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Put down a late preemergent/trimec mix last night. Mainly to try to get on top of the dandelions. Waited too long with the preemergent because I couldn't find a time to do it in time for rain. Yard looks like trash right now
 
R Q said:
Looks good John. Even in that shade you got the Poa Annua! But that's better turf than I've ever seen there.
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That's the thing I get it looking good (several years now) then summer comes and it all dies off and I do it again. I'm going to try and make sure we get the Willow Oak limbed up for more sun this year, If I can get a tree guy to show up or return my calls.
As far as the weeds yeah I sprayed them just last week but they are taking longer to die off than I expected. Maybe it is the cool nights.
 
No fries said:
That's the thing I get it looking good (several years now) then summer comes and it all dies off and I do it again. I'm going to try and make sure we get the Willow Oak limbed up for more sun this year, If I can get a tree guy to show up or return my calls.
As far as the weeds yeah I sprayed them just last week but they are taking longer to die off than I expected. Maybe it is the cool nights.
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thats not a sun problem. you need a wetting agent and humates
 
No fries said:
Can you elaborate? product recommendation and application
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Poa can do well in shaded and moist areas. Top selling bullet point for it. Conversely - it is extremely sensitive to drought and heat. Very low tolerance
A good wetting agent can increase drought and heat resistance exponentially. I mfg a wetting agent and many of my new mexico and arizona customers love the product exclusively because they continue to grow their veggies and/or flower gardens well into summer when everyone else packs it in till fall.

You will find alot of case studies (Hawaii University has a great one) on how important Humates are to nutrient density (drought/heat resistance due to sap health). It is the number one driver of making Phosphate available - and we all know that *zero* nutrients get into a plant without hitching a ride on the boat called Phosphate (this is how Roundup Glyphosate works - it simply blocks phosphate absorption)

I would experiment using a bio friendly soap, with a humate (low aluminum), along with a sugar - spraying or fertigating that 3x per week. If youre desparate for the results, apply daily spreading out the dosing

EDIT: in case its not known, wetting agents increase penetration (deeper and wider)
Great example video (rest of video content not sanctioned lol )
 
No fries said:
I just wanted to post this so I can look back and appreciate it later when it's a dust bowl in my back yard come June.
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ckruzer said:
Poa can do well in shaded and moist areas. Top selling bullet point for it. Conversely - it is extremely sensitive to drought and heat. Very low tolerance
A good wetting agent can increase drought and heat resistance exponentially. I mfg a wetting agent and many of my new mexico and arizona customers love the product exclusively because they continue to grow their veggies and/or flower gardens well into summer when everyone else packs it in till fall.

You will find alot of case studies (Hawaii University has a great one) on how important Humates are to nutrient density (drought/heat resistance due to sap health). It is the number one driver of making Phosphate available - and we all know that *zero* nutrients get into a plant without hitching a ride on the boat called Phosphate (this is how Roundup Glyphosate works - it simply blocks phosphate absorption)

I would experiment using a bio friendly soap, with a humate (low aluminum), along with a sugar - spraying or fertigating that 3x per week. If youre desparate for the results, apply daily spreading out the dosing

EDIT: in case its not known, wetting agents increase penetration (deeper and wider)
Great example video (rest of video content not sanctioned lol )
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Thanks I will research more. Make sense, but we also don't have a sprinkler system and I'm to busy to drag one around through the summer. We have been in this house for 27 years and it seems to get worse every year, Soil test seemed "normal". Also it seems some of that grass when germinates it didn't grow as fast as other areas.
Might be cheaper to pave it with $1 bills to keep it green.lol
 
No fries said:
Thanks I will research more. Make sense, but we also don't have a sprinkler system and I'm to busy to drag one around through the summer. We have been in this house for 27 years and it seems to get worse every year, Soil test seemed "normal". Also it seems some of that grass when germinates it didn't grow as fast as other areas.
Might be cheaper to pave it with $1 bills to keep it green.lol
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About $8.50 a square foot. Not bad honestly. I imagine maintenance would be a bitch though. All the dollars would keep walking away.
 
Decided to start over

Ripped up old and tilled entire yard, raked entire yard(that was terrible) seeded and put down straw. Now we water it for the next few weeks and hope :)
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