Lots of interesting news today

awheelterd said:
Is it even that good for the economy when you figure in all the massive tax breaks? I personally love to see my tax dollars used to bribe companies....
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and the cost of all the new infrastructure required roads, new schools, dealing with massive congestion, the displacement of poor people (oh escuse me, minoristies) from rediculous housing cost inflation, etc etc....

Whenever I look at the areas 10+ years down the road that have had a giant boom from a big company coming in, its not a good scene.
I mean Cary was a fiasco starting over 25 years ago bc of RTP, you'd think they would have learned
 
So 3000*$187,000=$561,000,000. Half a billion a year in salaries.
 
jeepinmatt said:
So 3000*$187,000=$561,000,000. Half a billion a year in salaries.
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If the average actual effective tax rate is, say, 3%, that is $15mil to the state.
I don't recall how counties get their cut (in MD we have seperate county and state income tax)
So what did they give up to get that?

(I also suspect these are BS made up ideal numbers)
 
awheelterd said:
Anyone smarter than me able to decipher this article? I gathered that the pentagon was using shady people to do shady things. Am I missing something?
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So Each and every external website you hit has a Public IP address associated with it.

IP address = House number
Website name = Friendly name of the site like Johns house

The DoD owns a VERY large chunk of those addresses, which people have been using for years as re-directs and attack space, also used as unmetered and unmonitored P2P re-directs for things like movie downloads and the like.

What the Pentagon did was take the unused chunk and "sold" it to a "Public Company" aka a front for either CIA NSA or DOD hacker collectives. Most likely its a lower level NSA hack group who is setting up a bunch of servers that are traps for foreign governments and bad actors to jump into. Then we can backtrace them and cause havoc or gather intel on their activities.
 
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Already facing sex charges, former Harnett private school staffer now charged with embezzlement

A former staff member at a private school in Harnett County was charged Monday with embezzlement.
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After violently arresting woman, 73, with dementia, and fracturing her arm police laughed about it, video shows: ‘We crushed it’



Sickening to read.

I'll quote it so as not to give clicks to WaPo

Last June, Karen Garner sat handcuffed to a bench inside a booking cell weeping and in pain.

No one had come to treat her fractured arm and dislocated shoulder hours after Loveland, Colo., police violently arrested the 73-year-old with dementia, her family said.

Meanwhile, about 10 feet away, three officers sat hunched around a computer as they re-watched body-camera footage of Garner’s arrest, a new video released by the attorney representing Garner’s family shows.

“Ready for the pop? Hear the pop?” the officer who initially handcuffed Garner can be heard saying, referencing the moment he injured her shoulder.

The nearly one-hour booking cell video released Monday shows two Loveland Police Department officers who participated in Garner’s arrest fist-bumping each other while discussing the incident. At one point, they are joined by another officer as they mock and praise the arrest, which they claimed “went great,” while referring to Garner as “ancient,” “senile” and “flexible.”

“We crushed it,” one of the officers says.

Sarah Schielke, an attorney representing Garner’s family, called the video “heart-wrenching” and “unseeable.” Schielke, who obtained the initially inaudible video last August, worked with a forensics audio engineer to capture the dialogue.

“At one point, I broke down and I wept because it was so raw, wrong and heartless,” Schielke told The Washington Post. “I don’t even know Karen, but it could have been my grandmother and I can’t imagine what the experience of having to live through that would be.”

Two weeks ago, following public outcry after body-camera footage of the incident was released, the city announced it would open an independent investigation into Garner’s treatment. Colorado’s Eighth Judicial district attorney, Gordon McLaughlin, said his office’s critical response team would investigate whether there was “any potential criminal behavior” by the Loveland officers.

On Tuesday, a Loveland police spokesman said four officers including Austin Hopp, the first to handcuff Garner, have been suspended. The criminal investigation will be conducted by McLaughlin’s office and the Fort Collins Police Department.

“Loveland Police Chief Bob Ticer strongly advocated for the criminal investigation, in consultation with the DA and other police agencies,” Tom Hacker, a Loveland police spokesman said in an email.

In a statement shared with The Post, McLaughlin said he has reviewed the booking cell footage released on Monday and that the investigation “is a priority for my office.” “The statements on the videos are very concerning,” McLaughlin said. “I will consider those statements along with all relevant evidence … in making a charging decision.”

Garner’s family, which filed a federal lawsuit against the city and three of the officers two weeks ago, has since filed an amended complaint adding two more Loveland officers for allegedly failing to intervene or provide medical care to Garner based on the recently released booking video.

Prosecutors open criminal probe into police who allegedly broke the arm of a 73-year-old woman with dementia

Police aggressively arrested the 80-pound woman as she was plucking purple wildflowers and strolling back home on June 26. They had been called after she left a Walmart without paying for items worth $13.88, according to her family’s lawsuit. Walmart said employees called the police after Garner allegedly pulled off an employee’s mask during the incident.

Body-camera footage shows Hopp grabbing Garner by her arms and wrenching them backward to handcuff her as she repeatedly cried that she was “going home.” At one point, Garner fell to the ground as officers struggled with her before putting her in a cruiser. Prosecutors later dropped all charges against Garner.

In the lawsuit, Garner’s family argues that due to dementia and sensory aphasia, a condition that leaves her unable to understand speech or to communicate easily, she was unable to understand the police officers’ commands. Schielke, the family’s attorney, said the incident could have been avoided had police requested a mental health unit.

After the lawsuit was filed, the department said it had not received a previous complaint about the incident and it was unaware of Garner’s injuries. But Schielke alleges the booking cell video disproves that because officers can be heard discussing a report that “alerts the department and creates an official record that force was used or an injury occurred.” That report allegedly made by the officers would have gone up the chain of command, Schielke said.

The nearly one-hour long booking video released on Monday, which was compiled in an edited 14-minute clip, shows Hopp along with officers Daria Jalali and Tyler Blackett watching the body-camera footage of Garner’s arrest while laughing and joking. “I hate this,” Jalali can be heard saying.

“This is great,” Hopp said.

“I love it,” Blackett replied.

At one point, as the three officers remain glued to the computer screen re-watching the arrest, one officer says, “It’s like TV!”

“The body-cam show,” another officer replied, while laughing.

Near the end of the clip, Hopp says Garner is the first person he’s ever used his hobble restraint on during an arrest. “I was super excited,” Hopp said. “I was like, ‘All right, let’s wrestle, girl. Let’s wreck it!’ I got her on the ground and all that stuff. I got her cuffed up. … Threw her on the ground a couple of times.”

He added, “I can’t believe I threw a 73-year-old on the ground.”

The officers also appear to monitor Garner from a screen and at one point Jalali enters her cell and comes back to report that Garner is claiming the handcuffs are hurting her hands.

Schielke said it took six hours before Garner was seen by a doctor.

Months after her arrest, Garner moved into a memory care facility about 45 minutes away from Loveland, where she used to live in a condo one block away from a daughter’s house. While Garner used to play cards, garden and was “fiercely independent,” she dropped those activities after the arrest, Schielke said.

“Since this happened, it’s vanished,” Schielke said. “The Loveland Police Department took it all away from her and now we know they laughed about it, too.”

Schielke said the family wants all the officers involved to be fired but also wants systemic change in the department and city leadership.

“We want to ensure that it doesn’t happen to anyone else again,” Schielke said. “What the family has lost here money of course can’t cure, but money will cause change.”
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It's easy to armchair quarterback, but I really can't see any justification for his actions once he had her hands, which was within a few seconds of contact.
 
jeepinmatt said:
It's easy to armchair quarterback, but I really can't see any justification for his actions once he had her hands, which was within a few seconds of contact.
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I'll go a half step farther. I'd be willing to live and let live as an adrenaline dump in the moment (as sad as that is).

The moment you watch a video and laugh at the old woman, whose shoulder you dislocated, there is no pit in hell hot enough for you. I hope he is fired, imprisoned, order to pay restitution and the result is his wife leaves him and he ends up destitue, homeless on the street begging for money and being bullied by future LEOs.
 
Ron said:
I hope he is fired, imprisoned, order to pay restitution and the result is his wife leaves him and he ends up destitue, homeless on the street begging for money and being bullied by future LEOs.
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The good news is if he were imprisoned (which sadly is very unlikely) it would not go well... bc not only do inmates not like cops, they've got grammy's they love dearly too....
 
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Mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles causing a social media stir

CONCORD, N.C. (FOX 46 CHARLOTTE) – A picture of an armored vehicle is causing outrage online. It’s of Concord Police Department’s mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicle. The negative commen…
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Looks like they are not alone
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What I really wanna know about is the 4th one from the bottom ^
 
The "saves them $500k" line is such bullshit.
First of all, thats the retail price new, not the real "value" after being decommisioned by the DoD. If I give @jeepinmatt a 20 year old XJ I didn't save him $15,000.
But forget that... this logic only holds IF they were going to buy one anyway.
This is like when my wife comes come wit ha new sofa and says, "I saved us $500 by only paying $1k for this." When we weren't in need of it anyway or a $100 CL deal would work fine.

whats also not stated is that maintainance, fuel, repairs, etc for these vehicles is also very costly. What do you think it costs to replace the transmission in a 10 year old MRAP?

Now we can discuss all day whethere the PD actually needs these kinds of vehicles... maybe they do, maybe they don't... but the cost savings is hard to see.
 
RatLabGuy said:
The "saves them $500k" line is such bullshit.
First of all, thats the retail price new, not the real "value" after being decommisioned by the DoD. If I give @jeepinmatt a 20 year old XJ I didn't save him $15,000.
But forget that... this logic only holds IF they were going to buy one anyway.
This is like when my wife comes come wit ha new sofa and says, "I saved us $500 by only paying $1k for this." When we weren't in need of it anyway or a $100 CL deal would work fine.

whats also not stated is that maintainance, fuel, repairs, etc for these vehicles is also very costly. What do you think it costs to replace the transmission in a 10 year old MRAP?

Now we can discuss all day whethere the PD actually needs these kinds of vehicles... maybe they do, maybe they don't... but the cost savings is hard to see.
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PM sent on XJ :laughing:
 
willness33 said:
All I know is I want one.
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If you're not in the city limits, and I'm not in the city limits, could we form our own "city" and police force, and then get one for our "police department"?
 
Suddenly it feels like our 2nd amendment rights need to include artillery.

While I'm sure its a more fiscally responsible use of military resources than simply scrapping or leaving behind these MRAPs on foreign soil. I do not want to imagine a future where any metropolitan police department on US soil would actually need one.

Why doesn't the military keep them if they are in serviceable condition? Surely we'll get involved in another war soon. :dumbass:
 
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