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Scientists Who Taught Rats To Drive Little Cars Say They Absolutely Love It

A updated university study shows rats get a dopamine rush when behind the wheel, and seek out driving even when there's no reward.
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IMO I'm thinking the rats just like not being in their cages and are happy to draw out time doing anything else interesting.
... just like us taking the long way to work or your MILs house to minimize the time being there :D

But the real test is to make 2 rat cars - a fun Mazda Miata and a boring Nissan Sentra version.
 
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RatLabGuy said:
your fun science for the day
www.thedrive.com

Scientists Who Taught Rats To Drive Little Cars Say They Absolutely Love It

A updated university study shows rats get a dopamine rush when behind the wheel, and seek out driving even when there's no reward.
www.thedrive.com www.thedrive.com

IMO I'm thinking the rats just like not being in their cages and are happy to draw out time doing anything else interesting.
... just like us taking the long way to work or your MILs house to minimize the time being there :D

But the real test is to make 2 rat cars - a fun Mazda Miata and a boring Nissan Sentra version.
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They need to find Ralph. Ralph S Mouse. You think car addictions are bad, wait til they get addicted to motorcycles!
 
Costs of some goods may go up, but it makes the American made products more competitive and incentivizes foreign countries to make their goods here and employ Americans.
Why is this so hard to understand, getting your cheap Chinese shit is not more important than America's economic future.
We must start making things in THIS country again for our children and their children's sake.
 
Bogleparsons said:
Costs of some goods may go up, but it makes the American made products more competitive and incentivizes foreign countries to make their goods here and employ Americans.
Why is this so hard to understand, getting your cheap Chinese shit is not more important than America's economic future.
We must start making things in THIS country again for our children and their children's sake.
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you have to get over the initial (potentially very large) hump in inflation. Given that we have very few factories here and little trained labor to do that kind of work ,it will take a long time to take over.
We already have a problem with wages and wage growth not matching costs and inflation, so thats a pretty major pill to swallow.
 
Bogleparsons said:
Costs of some goods may go up, but it makes the American made products more competitive and incentivizes foreign countries to make their goods here and employ Americans.
Why is this so hard to understand, getting your cheap Chinese shit is not more important than America's economic future.
We must start making things in THIS country again for our children and their children's sake.
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I 100% agree, but if there wasn't a demand for the cheap foreign crap, we wouldn't be flooded with it.

And as Ratlab said, we don't pay people enough to buy the stuff that's made here. I would love to see the labor of the past come back, along with pensions and cheap healthcare. Guess what, it's not going to happen.
 
justjeepin86 said:
I 100% agree, but if there wasn't a demand for the cheap foreign crap, we wouldn't be flooded with it.

And as Ratlab said, we don't pay people enough to buy the stuff that's made here. I would love to see the labor of the past come back, along with pensions and cheap healthcare. Guess what, it's not going to happen.
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If we weren’t taxed to death, we could probably afford to buy the stuff that’s made here.
 
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I still can't believe they actually typed this part:
"Even dollar stores aren’t immune."
Like, that would be the very first guess of places that would be affected by a tariff on cheap chinese crap.
 
justjeepin86 said:
I would love to see the labor of the past come back, along with pensions and cheap healthcare. Guess what, it's not going to happen.
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Especially since the production market is so global now. Things will just shift from china to vietnam, india, indonesia, turkey, etc. Only effective way is to wall off every country, but then thats expensive across the board (but likely to be what happens).
Andy J. said:
If we weren’t taxed to death, we could probably afford to buy the stuff that’s made here.
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Do you mean... sales tax?
The difference in domestic vs foreign made costs are WAY more than 6%.
 
justjeepin86 said:
I 100% agree, but if there wasn't a demand for the cheap foreign crap, we wouldn't be flooded with it.
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I don't really agree with this. There is a demand for a middle ground quality product at a fair price, but the pursuit of profits has segregated everything into:
A: Top quality good that are so expensive your average person cannot justify the cost.
or
C: Cheap chinese crap that is constantly breaking, wearing out, or never even working to begin with, and constantly being replaced

I'd love to just buy B: Good quality product that will last a long time and do the intended function, but maybe lacks some bells and whistles or fancy finishes, and is priced somewhere in the middle.

Instead, I buy the used, worn out, needs work version of A, because it is the closest thing to B.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Do you mean... sales tax?
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No, he means that so much of our dollars flow to
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That by the time its all done, theres not enough left to live a comfortable life on what should be a comfortable income.
 
jeepinmatt said:
I don't really agree with this. There is a demand for a middle ground quality product at a fair price, but the pursuit of profits has segregated everything into:
A: Top quality good that are so expensive your average person cannot justify the cost.
or
C: Cheap chinese crap that is constantly breaking, wearing out, or never even working to begin with, and constantly being replaced

I'd love to just buy B: Good quality product that will last a long time and do the intended function, but maybe lacks some bells and whistles or fancy finishes, and is priced somewhere in the middle.

Instead, I buy the used, worn out, needs work version of A, because it is the closest thing to B.
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You don't agree that if we didn't buy cheap foreign crap, that we wouldn't have so much of it? I know where you are coming from though.
 
The core issue is that we have sold out intellectual property, technical experience, and manufacturing competence in exchange for cheap stuff, and now we cannot reap the dividends of those critical aspects. For decades (maybe centuries), China's primary competence has been copying shit and making it cheaper and lower quality. Now they have become such a manufacturing powerhouse that they can reap the benefits and actually design and manufacture things without US or European input. Considering that China is the greatest threat to both the US and just generally to a stable world, it is absolutely stupid that we keep perpetuating and even encouraging this situation. Yes, it will be painful, but if we don't take the pain now, in the long run it will be suicide to our current way of life.
 
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