My 2nd time/experience at The Flats!! AWESOME.

I want this thread to live forever for the sole purpose that someone now knows how I feel about the majority of threads. I would be a terrible admin. I would literally show up in the morning, log in and start deleting. It would be like one of those /b boards or whatever they're called. After a while they roll off into the abyss never to return.
 
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Seen it on Instagram and had to stir the pot. Hope you can laugh.

Btw, I saved and have shared the pic
Of your cut thornbirds, and would run a set in a heartbeat
 
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Chuckman said:
for the love of all that is Holy- somebody make this guy go away, AGAIN
Hes been on 2 trips to a teeny park, in perfect weather, and now hes spewing loads of tech?o_O
wait till he blows up that 8.25 with those grooved abortions and see who pulls him out- since he doesn't believe in winches.
oh wait, he'll hook that 400miles of chain to that 2" trailer hitch ball and send it all careening into the woods.
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there's always the one and you seem to be it. dude, might be a teeny park to you, my accomplishments and fun i've had might not mean squat to you, my grooved tires might be scrap rubber to you but at the end of the day, I'm happy with what i have, proud of my cheap XJs capability and proud to go out to such a "teeny" park and have a awesome time because it doesn't bother me what guys like you think. I give you a E for effort in trying to sabotage my enjoyment in life and this hobby but honestly, if i paid attention to guys like you I would've never came down to the park. Good Day to you...ASS!!
 
krehel24 said:
Could just get a toyota and not have to worry about all the "tire grove" blah blah:fuck-you:
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The answer. End thread
Even though i have cut tsls on my toyota from the tire grooving expert
 
^^^ha ha ha but no thanks. i like my jeep and nothing would ever steer me away from them.
 
dude listen, that's something that you don't do very well. just listen.

lets harken back to the days of yore- when there were REAL trails everywhere, the only aftermarket parts were sold in the black and white ads of National Tire and Wheel in the 'wheeling magazines- back when 33"s were BIG and 4" of lift was unimaginable- only one guy out of 10 had winches. back when all the the solid axle yotas were all still rust free daily drivers. way before internet, computers and when Galloways and Tarheel were relevant. Im talking the Golden Age of 4wheeling in NC and buddy you really missed it (and Im damn glad you did). There was Globe, Pond Mtn, Callalante, Crackers Neck, Tellico, Uwharrie, Brown Mtn, even TN had Oak Ridge, the Obed River, on and on and on. Im talking TRAIL RIDING. Not wheeling in a super cool 160 acres (which I am super thankful for), Im talking TRAIL RIDING. Look around. The buggies that you hate so much, the old beat up veteran CJ's (CJ5's dammit!!) , the old fullsize trucks, the Tellico cab trucks held together with bailing wire that have had more 'wheeling experience in one Ujoint than your rig will ever, ever have. That's not opinion, that's FACT. Those guys know why you need winches, big engines, rollcages, spare parts, heavy duty axles etc. BECAUSE YOU NEEDED THEM TO GET HOME. When you roll over - winch. When you are mired up frame deep in goo and its pouring down rain and every else is broken too- HP (wheel speed). Tires weren't cut- they were shitty and we learned to deal with it. You were good if you could afford matching sets - hell, I ran Helicopter pad with open differentials and mismatched 31" recaps you little snot nosed fawker- but I got real tires and built a real rig ASAP because that's whats REQUIRED. We still have those rigs, but weve all but lost the trails You needed heavy duty because it aint always rainbows and lollipops - if you haven't been ass deep in a TRUE trail with horrible rain coming in so bad you cant see, so steep you cant stand up, and the 15 guys you are with- 10 have something broken and you hear winches running everywhere and V8's roaring like its a damn war zone then YOU AINT BEEN WHEELING. NOW with that said, when WE the old school die hard wheelers tell you to shut the fuck up and listen like you should, its not real polite for you to go mouthing off, you haven't earned that right yet, now have you. Its good that you are excited, that's dandy. But the dribble that you are spewing is like telling me how to catch 700# tuna in high seas with 200# class rods when all you've done is caught a trout in a pay pond with corn. Just hide in the corners and listen before youre booted off the board, AGAIN. Just listen, pay attention and quit tying up the board, dammit. I wouldn't be so upset for the 'customers' that you deal with apparently don't know any better. I cant imagine what BS you've put in their heads.

congratulations, you spent $300 worth of labor making a shitty tire work. theyre called BOGGERS
 
Chuckman said:
- if you haven't been ass deep in a TRUE trail with horrible rain coming in so bad you cant see, so steep you cant stand up, and the 15 guys you are with- 10 have something broken and you hear winches running everywhere and V8's roaring like its a damn war zone then YOU AINT BEEN WHEELING.
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Ahhh the good old days...
 
Yup!!! I remember a night it was raining so hard and the only way we got up the hill climb on dutch john was to catch 2nd gear in 4 high right at the turn. Then lots of skinny pedal and bouncing from one side to the other all the way up!!! Man that was fun!it was slick as :poop:! I am sure if I had those supper pooper cut tires I would have crawled up in 4 low,low....:shaking:
 
Dang
 
Chuckman said:
dude listen, that's something that you don't do very well. just listen.

lets harken back to the days of yore- when there were REAL trails everywhere, the only aftermarket parts were sold in the black and white ads of National Tire and Wheel in the 'wheeling magazines- back when 33"s were BIG and 4" of lift was unimaginable- only one guy out of 10 had winches. back when all the the solid axle yotas were all still rust free daily drivers. way before internet, computers and when Galloways and Tarheel were relevant. Im talking the Golden Age of 4wheeling in NC and buddy you really missed it (and Im damn glad you did). There was Globe, Pond Mtn, Callalante, Crackers Neck, Tellico, Uwharrie, Brown Mtn, even TN had Oak Ridge, the Obed River, on and on and on. Im talking TRAIL RIDING. Not wheeling in a super cool 160 acres (which I am super thankful for), Im talking TRAIL RIDING. Look around. The buggies that you hate so much, the old beat up veteran CJ's (CJ5's dammit!!) , the old fullsize trucks, the Tellico cab trucks held together with bailing wire that have had more 'wheeling experience in one Ujoint than your rig will ever, ever have. That's not opinion, that's FACT. Those guys know why you need winches, big engines, rollcages, spare parts, heavy duty axles etc. BECAUSE YOU NEEDED THEM TO GET HOME. When you roll over - winch. When you are mired up frame deep in goo and its pouring down rain and every else is broken too- HP (wheel speed). Tires weren't cut- they were shitty and we learned to deal with it. You were good if you could afford matching sets - hell, I ran Helicopter pad with open differentials and mismatched 31" recaps you little snot nosed fawker- but I got real tires and built a real rig ASAP because that's whats REQUIRED. We still have those rigs, but weve all but lost the trails You needed heavy duty because it aint always rainbows and lollipops - if you haven't been ass deep in a TRUE trail with horrible rain coming in so bad you cant see, so steep you cant stand up, and the 15 guys you are with- 10 have something broken and you hear winches running everywhere and V8's roaring like its a damn war zone then YOU AINT BEEN WHEELING. NOW with that said, when WE the old school die hard wheelers tell you to shut the fuck up and listen like you should, its not real polite for you to go mouthing off, you haven't earned that right yet, now have you. Its good that you are excited, that's dandy. But the dribble that you are spewing is like telling me how to catch 700# tuna in high seas with 200# class rods when all you've done is caught a trout in a pay pond with corn. Just hide in the corners and listen before youre booted off the board, AGAIN. Just listen, pay attention and quit tying up the board, dammit. I wouldn't be so upset for the 'customers' that you deal with apparently don't know any better. I cant imagine what BS you've put in their heads.

congratulations, you spent $300 worth of labor making a shitty tire work. theyre called BOGGERS
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Chuckman said:
dude listen, that's something that you don't do very well. just listen.

lets harken back to the days of yore- when there were REAL trails everywhere, the only aftermarket parts were sold in the black and white ads of National Tire and Wheel in the 'wheeling magazines- back when 33"s were BIG and 4" of lift was unimaginable- only one guy out of 10 had winches. back when all the the solid axle yotas were all still rust free daily drivers. way before internet, computers and when Galloways and Tarheel were relevant. Im talking the Golden Age of 4wheeling in NC and buddy you really missed it (and Im damn glad you did). There was Globe, Pond Mtn, Callalante, Crackers Neck, Tellico, Uwharrie, Brown Mtn, even TN had Oak Ridge, the Obed River, on and on and on. Im talking TRAIL RIDING. Not wheeling in a super cool 160 acres (which I am super thankful for), Im talking TRAIL RIDING. Look around. The buggies that you hate so much, the old beat up veteran CJ's (CJ5's dammit!!) , the old fullsize trucks, the Tellico cab trucks held together with bailing wire that have had more 'wheeling experience in one Ujoint than your rig will ever, ever have. That's not opinion, that's FACT. Those guys know why you need winches, big engines, rollcages, spare parts, heavy duty axles etc. BECAUSE YOU NEEDED THEM TO GET HOME. When you roll over - winch. When you are mired up frame deep in goo and its pouring down rain and every else is broken too- HP (wheel speed). Tires weren't cut- they were shitty and we learned to deal with it. You were good if you could afford matching sets - hell, I ran Helicopter pad with open differentials and mismatched 31" recaps you little snot nosed fawker- but I got real tires and built a real rig ASAP because that's whats REQUIRED. We still have those rigs, but weve all but lost the trails You needed heavy duty because it aint always rainbows and lollipops - if you haven't been ass deep in a TRUE trail with horrible rain coming in so bad you cant see, so steep you cant stand up, and the 15 guys you are with- 10 have something broken and you hear winches running everywhere and V8's roaring like its a damn war zone then YOU AINT BEEN WHEELING. NOW with that said, when WE the old school die hard wheelers tell you to shut the fuck up and listen like you should, its not real polite for you to go mouthing off, you haven't earned that right yet, now have you. Its good that you are excited, that's dandy. But the dribble that you are spewing is like telling me how to catch 700# tuna in high seas with 200# class rods when all you've done is caught a trout in a pay pond with corn. Just hide in the corners and listen before youre booted off the board, AGAIN. Just listen, pay attention and quit tying up the board, dammit. I wouldn't be so upset for the 'customers' that you deal with apparently don't know any better. I cant imagine what BS you've put in their heads.

congratulations, you spent $300 worth of labor making a shitty tire work. theyre called BOGGERS
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#1. i don't have to listen to people like you, #2. I don't give a rats ass where you been , what you've done, and how much of badassery of "trail riding" you claim to have done. what the hell is with people like you...you think cause you've been around every trail of the world and every situation they have to offer....you're some Four Wheel God? and even if you are, i could care less cause that high ego guys like you hold over guys like me is very ugly and people like you are the reason every sport/hobby get ruined for somebody and gives bad names to all recreational outings just because ya'll think you're some hot shot god of your sport. I don't hate the Buggy Crowd, i actually respect them a lot and have spent hours admiring them as they pull up and unload during the early morning and i met several that were very very cool and nice to hang out with and what do you know...one went out of his way to bring me along and HIM show me what my jeep is capable with and motivated me to have fun and tackle stuff instead of listening to all this internet spilled bullshit about how weak a jeep is and it can't leave the parking lot without busting into some rubble so as you can imagine why i don't listen to you or others like you on here....because i'd rather take advise from someone who is kind, respectful, not full of himself, and is willing to help/show others at their level what they have and how to make the best of it....compared to people like you sit back and tell us to stay the hell out of your way just because you think you have some kind of rights out there. what's funny is guys like you stand out like a swore thumb at the park cause of the way you look down on people like me and that's a pretty shitty way to live and be. (Just hide in the corner) is what you wish upon people like me but buddy i got news for you...i've been in hiding, without choice however, for all my 15years of wheeling and now that i'm out and making the best time of my life with it...ain't nobody gonna tell me to stay home and keep off the road. got more news for you...(i haven't earned the right to speak up??) who the hell do you think you are on such a high horse...i hope for your sake you find a way to be truly happy without the need to belittle people and degrade those below you. Your money, accomplishments, past experiences, trucks and buggies, houses, and worth means absolutely JUNK when you are as ugly as a person you are showing yourself to be. Try something new for a change....stay out of my threads since you can't handle my joy and happiness and go brag off to other people who might give a dam and endulge yourselves in your high and mighty ways. Again, if your a grown ass man, than take your grown ass off my thread and mind your own business...sick of people like you ruining my threads with your expert BS!!! one more request, not that you would, but please make sure you refrain from introducing yourself to me in person...this internet junk is about all i can handle. my time out there is taken up by good people who care to have fun and be together enjoying it!! Have yourself a Great Day.........................................
 
and now back to your regular scheduled program!!! i hope everyone had a great Day!!
 
John Fuller said:
#1. i don't have to listen to people like you, #2. I don't give a rats ass where you been , what you've done, and how much of badassery of "trail riding" you claim to have done. what the hell is with people like you...you think cause you've been around every trail of the world and every situation they have to offer....you're some Four Wheel God? and even if you are, i could care less cause that high ego guys like you hold over guys like me is very ugly and people like you are the reason every sport/hobby get ruined for somebody and gives bad names to all recreational outings just because ya'll think you're some hot shot god of your sport. I don't hate the Buggy Crowd, i actually respect them a lot and have spent hours admiring them as they pull up and unload during the early morning and i met several that were very very cool and nice to hang out with and what do you know...one went out of his way to bring me along and HIM show me what my jeep is capable with and motivated me to have fun and tackle stuff instead of listening to all this internet spilled bullshit about how weak a jeep is and it can't leave the parking lot without busting into some rubble so as you can imagine why i don't listen to you or others like you on here....because i'd rather take advise from someone who is kind, respectful, not full of himself, and is willing to help/show others at their level what they have and how to make the best of it....compared to people like you sit back and tell us to stay the hell out of your way just because you think you have some kind of rights out there. what's funny is guys like you stand out like a swore thumb at the park cause of the way you look down on people like me and that's a pretty shitty way to live and be. (Just hide in the corner) is what you wish upon people like me but buddy i got news for you...i've been in hiding, without choice however, for all my 15years of wheeling and now that i'm out and making the best time of my life with it...ain't nobody gonna tell me to stay home and keep off the road. got more news for you...(i haven't earned the right to speak up??) who the hell do you think you are on such a high horse...i hope for your sake you find a way to be truly happy without the need to belittle people and degrade those below you. Your money, accomplishments, past experiences, trucks and buggies, houses, and worth means absolutely JUNK when you are as ugly as a person you are showing yourself to be. Try something new for a change....stay out of my threads since you can't handle my joy and happiness and go brag off to other people who might give a dam and endulge yourselves in your high and mighty ways. Again, if your a grown ass man, than take your grown ass off my thread and mind your own business...sick of people like you ruining my threads with your expert BS!!! one more request, not that you would, but please make sure you refrain from introducing yourself to me in person...this internet junk is about all i can handle. my time out there is taken up by good people who care to have fun and be together enjoying it!! Have yourself a Great Day.........................................
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Dayum........
But well said.
 
John Fuller said:
#1. i don't have to listen to people like you, #2. I don't give a rats ass where you been , what you've done, and how much of badassery of "trail riding" you claim to have done. what the hell is with people like you...you think cause you've been around every trail of the world and every situation they have to offer....you're some Four Wheel God? and even if you are, i could care less cause that high ego guys like you hold over guys like me is very ugly and people like you are the reason every sport/hobby get ruined for somebody and gives bad names to all recreational outings just because ya'll think you're some hot shot god of your sport. I don't hate the Buggy Crowd, i actually respect them a lot and have spent hours admiring them as they pull up and unload during the early morning and i met several that were very very cool and nice to hang out with and what do you know...one went out of his way to bring me along and HIM show me what my jeep is capable with and motivated me to have fun and tackle stuff instead of listening to all this internet spilled bullshit about how weak a jeep is and it can't leave the parking lot without busting into some rubble so as you can imagine why i don't listen to you or others like you on here....because i'd rather take advise from someone who is kind, respectful, not full of himself, and is willing to help/show others at their level what they have and how to make the best of it....compared to people like you sit back and tell us to stay the hell out of your way just because you think you have some kind of rights out there. what's funny is guys like you stand out like a swore thumb at the park cause of the way you look down on people like me and that's a pretty shitty way to live and be. (Just hide in the corner) is what you wish upon people like me but buddy i got news for you...i've been in hiding, without choice however, for all my 15years of wheeling and now that i'm out and making the best time of my life with it...ain't nobody gonna tell me to stay home and keep off the road. got more news for you...(i haven't earned the right to speak up??) who the hell do you think you are on such a high horse...i hope for your sake you find a way to be truly happy without the need to belittle people and degrade those below you. Your money, accomplishments, past experiences, trucks and buggies, houses, and worth means absolutely JUNK when you are as ugly as a person you are showing yourself to be. Try something new for a change....stay out of my threads since you can't handle my joy and happiness and go brag off to other people who might give a dam and endulge yourselves in your high and mighty ways. Again, if your a grown ass man, than take your grown ass off my thread and mind your own business...sick of people like you ruining my threads with your expert BS!!! one more request, not that you would, but please make sure you refrain from introducing yourself to me in person...this internet junk is about all i can handle. my time out there is taken up by good people who care to have fun and be together enjoying it!! Have yourself a Great Day.........................................
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^ all that is interesting. hmmmm where was I that day.... oh yeah, I was taking a NEW TO 4WHEELING friend with a BONE stock (non-rubicon) 2 door JK with 360 miles on the ticker through the park showing him what a jeep can do (even a stocker)- as he was a new guy THAT WANTED TO LISTEN AND LEARN. oh and btw- I was the last one out of the woods Friday night and the first one back in the next AM. I had run all the trails - gone to waffle house and gas station, came back, ran them all again, and back at camp by 8:15am when the stock rig showed up. then I aired up and drove back to Boone by 16:00 sat afternoon. so yeah youre probably right that I was hiding in the corners and being a menace to the sport.

don't sweat it dude, I have zero interest in making your acquaintance. I deal with enough know it alls at work. learn from others and life is very, very easy. you apparently haven't learned that yet.

BTW- it was so dry that day that the stocker made quite the impressive display, it made the long updhill climbs up by the mudpit and didn't slip a tire- and they were crappy stock snow tires - sorry Ryan..
 
Chuckman said:
Im talking the Golden Age of 4wheeling in NC and buddy you really missed it (and Im damn glad you did). There was Globe, Pond Mtn, Callalante, Crackers Neck, Tellico, Uwharrie, Brown Mtn, even TN had Oak Ridge, the Obed River, on and on and on. Im talking TRAIL RIDING.
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Robinsville...Little Buffalo , Squally.....best site seeing, riding in the woods, hard, badass, winch required period!, trails around.
 
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