NC4X4 Uwharrie Trail Work Day - March 27th 2010

I'll be bringing a socket set with ratchets, hammers and some wrenches. We will probably a few more sets so more than one person is ratcheting. As far as lunch goes I won't be able to eat much. I don't mind bringing my own food. Perhaps if someone just wanted to bring enough bread and lunch meat to go around that would do the trick. No need for anything extravagant.
 
I've been waiting to see how work looks for the next week, and a running Jeep (or anything) for the weekend.. Right now I'm about 50-50 on making it for Saturday only.

IF I am able to come, can bring generator and/or gas-powered air compressor, if either would be of benefit. (Along with d-drill, impact, etc.) Let me know if this would help, and if so, I'll try my best to make it work out.
 
I think the generator would be handy. I was going to bring a 400watt inverter to charge batteries and run small stuff with. The generator or the gas compressor would be very useful, especially if no one has a battery impact. I know I want one but I think I need to chill out on buying stuff. lol
 
Any of the above including generators and air compressors would greatly help. The quicker we can put the railing in, the quicker we can move onto other jobs. And Terry is open to ideas so if we have the time we can make suggestions and see what we can get done outside of just what they have planned.
 
I'll bring a 2000w Honda generator, got plenty of hand tools too.I'm planning on bringing my own food and drinks. I have a empty passenger seat if anybody near me wants to come along. I'm in the Franklinville/Asheboro area. PM me if anybody is interested. The sooner the better so we can plan something.
Could drive the F-250 if needed to haul some stuff to the trail. You guys that have done this before let me know what would be best, I'm new here and welcome your input. Looking forward to meeting and helping out.
 
DRaider90 said:
From what I saw they have done a good amount of work on the trails, which is good news. The more trail work that gets done the easier it is to keep the trails open. Also from talking to Terry it sounds like they have a lot of work in the years to come with their trail plans.
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In case anyone is wondering what I was talking about up there especially in the bold. JC pretty much covered all the stuff I discussed with Terry while on Falls Dam Friday. Its a good read if you want to stay up to date on what is happening on the trails.

http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85166

It also shows how much work that is planned and how they will need all the volunteers/help they can get. A lot of the work is contracted out, but there will be a lot of work for volunteers to do etc. So its a good thing we are getting something started now, and hopefully by the time everything is approved we will have a regular thing going on here. :beer:
 
who do i need to contact so they know i am on the way or do i just show up and if so can i have the directions from burnsville thank you.
 
I'm moving from a maybe to a possibly :)

Had a knee injury in WV from a HMMVW and a log :) Pushed my luck working at the ECORS race Saturday but plan to stay off of it most of the week. Should be good to go by Saturday ......... I hope.
 
Went back and looked at the thread. Not sure exactly what work is going to be done, but....... on the guardrail installation.

CTB used a 9" auger bit. Hand post hole diggers are good to have to clean up the hole after the auger is through. As many tamping rods as you can get ahold of are good too both for breaking up rock in the hole and for setting the post sections.

The guardrail sections will need to be drug to the work site. They come in 12 and 20 foot sections, are really too long to fit in a pickup bed easily and you would need a high clearance trailer to get them in by trailer. CTB took the posts in on a pickup but they can be drug in also. You will need some stout rope or small chain (1/4"?) to connect the sections to the rigs. CTB used a small (3/8"-1/2") clevis (D-ring) to attach the sections to the rigs. A section of 3/8" chain would be helpful here also as would addition additional clevis's.

The bolts the FS provided for connecting the guardrail to post used a 1 1/4" nut, the bolt is a carriage style bolt, that is what we had anyway. As there is only one bolt every 12' to 20' we found that air or impact tools were overkill. Attaching the bolts is a minor and quick part of the job even with one combination wrench.

One of the BEST things that can be done is in the area of supervision/management. At most ALL of the FS workdays I have attended there could have been a LOT more done with better supervision/management. Even though CTB tried to head this off this year we still had a lot of down time, folks standing around with nothing to do, wasted time and effort, etc. The FS personnel that will be there won't boss you but then again they don't offer much help. They are just there :)
 
Okay, let's start a tools list. Below is what I'm bringing. Please copy and paste my list and add what you are bringing to it.

Please look at what JC posted and if any of you have those things please bring them. We can use the Bobcat to drag the guardrails and posts. I don't know what a tamping rod is.. :)

- Bobcat on tracks with auger attachment and 9" bit
- Socket Set 1/4" - 1/2" assortment
- Tool bag full of SAE and Metric wrenches
- 3lb maul & regular claw hammer
- 300 ft lb 1/2" cordless impact
- SAE and Metric Impact sockets
- Post hole digger
- Shovel
- 2 3/4" d-ring shackles (pulling them off my XJ)
- 10,000 lb tow strap
 
Looks like I'm probably out for Saturday at this point. My #1 tow vehicle is sidelined, and the #2 had to get towed off the side of the highway today. On top of that, I'm having to miss some work this week, and will have to make it up this weekend. :(

I'll make one of the next days.
 
It looks like there is a lot of conflicting information on the bolt size. I trust both JC and Terry, so I would say bring all the sockets you have and then there will be no doubt we will have the correct size. But as JC pointed out the bolts aren't the biggest issue, as long as we have one correct socket/wrench we should be good.

I did talk with Terry briefly Friday about a plan of attack and it we talked about having at least 2 groups. Here is the way it makes sense to me.

(Only Counting the Confirmed 7 people)

SkidLoader 2 Man Team:
Myself driving the loader, and 1 person with a post hole digger and/or rock bar to help clear out the holes.

The skid team goes down to the mud pit ahead of the group and gets started drilling the holes.

3 Man Guard Rail Team:
They focus on getting the guard railing up to the mud pit dragging it via vehicles.

2 Man Guard Rail/Hog Wire Removal Team:
They focus on getting the guard railing up to the point on 516 where the hog wire needs to be removed. After they get the guard railing up there, they start removing the hog wire.

Then any additional people we have we add them to each of the Guard Rail teams (starting with the 2 man team). The logic of those numbers is that there is a LOT more guard rail to bring to the mud pit than there is to the 516 spot.

People will have to be self motivated, but it there is plenty of work to do so there shouldn't be any real issues. IF we have enough people (at least 3 people per guard rail team, plus myself and the other person on the skid team), I would elect cltdba if he is up to the task of being the running supervisor for the 2 guard rail teams. I will do what limited supervision I can from the skid loader, which won't be a whole lot.

Communication will be key. We will need to at least have one vehicle in each team with a good operational CB. Hand held cbs will also be a plus. I have a hand held plus a unit in my truck. I have an adapter to run the hand held on a regular antenna, so if it works I will put a magnet mount antenna on the skid loader and use the hand held. Lets go for Channel 3 on the CBs. This is unless someone has a couple sets of 2 way radios they think would work better. What ever we have to do to keep communication between the groups so everyone is on the same page.
 
Sounds like you are off on the right foot as far as plan of attack goes.

I'm planning to be there but not sure exactly how much my knee will let me do. I may be relegated to dragging guardrail, or just riding with someone else and watching them do it :)
 
I might can be there to help. I got tools which include that illusive battery powered impact. let me know times and meeting place. I live only 5 minutes from the outpost so If more tools are needed they won't be far away. My trail truck is down but my tow truck is still here if needed.
 
I don't have a CB, but should be able to get some 2-ways.

I'll help out in any way I can whether that be supervising and/or turning wrenches. :)
 
Sounds like a plan to me. Any idea what tools would be best for taking down the Hog wire? I'm bringing an assortment of tools since it sounds like we are going to get a lot done.
My tool list
Big adjustable wrenches
Vise grip pliers
2 lb. hammer
Rock buster/Tamper Bar
Chains
Socket set
Lunch

Sounds like the Generator will not be needed.
 
Well I had a little mishap yesterday and it looks like I'm going to be in the hospital the rest of the week. I'm sorry but I'm not going to make it.
 
HaPtOAD said:
Well I had a little mishap yesterday and it looks like I'm going to be in the hospital the rest of the week.
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Need pics to verify your absence :)

Seriously, sorry to hear that, hope it's not too serious and you can be back in action soon. I had a run in with HMMWV last week that I thought was going to put me down for awhile, turns out the knee is getting a little better.
 
98xjjeep said:
How late will yall be up there? I have to work for a little on sat but would like to help out.
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Probably will be there for the better part of the day. At least until 3pm if not longer. Give me a call, I should have reception on Falls Dam. 704-401-6054 If I don't answer then that means I don't have reception and we are still there. :)
 
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