Pole barn kits

untchabl said:
Thanks for the info on the R&R vs BDC trusses.

Funny you mention chicken house trusses. We're in the beginning stages of tearing down two 40x500 chicken houses at the farm (parents retired) so I'm considering using them for my shop build since they are steel trusses.
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You trying to sell any of those trusses? I can help tear down too if needed.
 
untchabl said:
Thanks for the info on the R&R vs BDC trusses.

Funny you mention chicken house trusses. We're in the beginning stages of tearing down two 40x500 chicken houses at the farm (parents retired) so I'm considering using them for my shop build since they are steel trusses.
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untchabl said:
Thanks for the info on the R&R vs BDC trusses.

Funny you mention chicken house trusses. We're in the beginning stages of tearing down two 40x500 chicken houses at the farm (parents retired) so I'm considering using them for my shop build since they are steel trusses.
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I’ve got a line on some right now, but if y’all tear them down/sell off I might be interested in 100’ depending on the condition of the tin and purlins.
 
@CarolinaHD @StretchASU we probably will sell some trusses, tin and purlins eventually. We've got about 90% of the sidewalls off of one house now. But not sure how long it will take us to start taking down tin/trusses because the next step is removing and disposing of all the old insulation in the ceiling which we're dreading.

I'll be sure to post them for sale on here when we start getting the trusses down.
 
Ain't nothing wrong with some chicken house trusses. I was gonna go 30x40 on mine, until I found a good deal on some 34ft chicken house trusses.
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Wish they were 40ft though, because then I could store 6 more feet of junk!
 
benmack1 said:
Your trailer situation has improved immensely since back then!!!!
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Kind of amazing, the only things still left from those pics are the shop itself, the forklift, and the welding table. Everything else has been sold, traded, or otherwise upgraded.
 
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CarolinaHD said:
You trying to sell any of those trusses? I can help tear down too if needed.
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I was going to say the same thing. Have truck and trailer will travel. I'd gladly drive up and help remove stuff for a deal on some trusses.
 
untchabl said:
@CarolinaHD @StretchASU we probably will sell some trusses, tin and purlins eventually. We've got about 90% of the sidewalls off of one house now. But not sure how long it will take us to start taking down tin/trusses because the next step is removing and disposing of all the old insulation in the ceiling which we're dreading.

I'll be sure to post them for sale on here when we start getting the trusses down.
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Quoting this for later. I may be interested in some also.
 
ghost said:
I keep going back to this idea. Basically build it myself.
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My only regrets on my shop are not building it bigger ($$$$$) and paying someone to put the roof on. Well, and still not finishing the trim, haha. I did the rest myself and then had to fix crappy work that the roofer did. I think thats what sapped my momentum and why I stalled out on the trim.
 
Update: The building supplies were delivered on Friday so @Mulishajoe & my dad got busy at least getting the poles in the ginormous holes. And now we wait.

We don't meet an agricultural exemption so we have to go through inspections. The structure isn't covered in the code book so they rely on engineered prints (hopefully I got the lingo right, this isn't my wheelhouse). The inspector wants more details than what our print offers. So, we can't move forward with cementing the posts until that gets resolved 🙄

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jeepin' jen said:
The inspector wants more details than what our print offers. So, we can't move forward with cementing the posts until that gets resolved 🙄
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Typically you don't "cement the posts" on a pole barn type build.

Code requires a solid base, but SOME inspectors will not allow a mass produced base so to satisfy some inspectors, a mold is made on site and a base is poured from concrete then lowered into the hole for the post to rest on. From there the post is set and backfilled with 67 stone.

This is a typical detail that has passed inspection in several counties that I know of

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CasterTroy said:
Typically you don't "cement the posts" on a pole barn type build.

Code requires a solid base, but SOME inspectors will not allow a mass produced base so to satisfy some inspectors, a mold is made on site and a base is poured from concrete then lowered into the hole for the post to rest on. From there the post is set and backfilled with 67 stone.

This is a typical detail that has passed inspection in several counties that I know of

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I've seen it done several times in several counties now where you have to pour a "footer" in the bottom of your post hole, then when thats inspected place the posts and fill rest of hole with concrete. They do sell wet set and drill in post collars but usually not needed.
 
CasterTroy said:
Typically you don't "cement the posts" on a pole barn type build.

Code requires a solid base, but SOME inspectors will not allow a mass produced base so to satisfy some inspectors, a mold is made on site and a base is poured from concrete then lowered into the hole for the post to rest on. From there the post is set and backfilled with 67 stone.

This is a typical detail that has passed inspection in several counties that I know of

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So you're saying no concrete around the post at all? Only gravel?
 
jeepinmatt said:
So you're saying no concrete around the post at all? Only gravel?
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Correct.

But that's only from the inspection dept of Forsyth and Davidson county

The inspector specifically said that concrete around the post was a BIG nono because it cause the wood to rot.

Since there's never a reason to argue with the inspector over something so trivial.. we just roll with it.

The same detail I posted has been used in Forsyth, Davidson, Surry and Rockingham. If another county says "concrete around post" then that's what the detail will show 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
CasterTroy said:
Correct.

But that's only from the inspection dept of Forsyth and Davidson county

The inspector specifically said that concrete around the post was a BIG nono because it cause the wood to rot.

Since there's never a reason to argue with the inspector over something so trivial.. we just roll with it
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Ask him what his thoughts on treated sill plate on a slab foundation are next time
 
CasterTroy said:
The inspector specifically said that concrete around the post was a BIG nono because it cause the wood to rot.
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I agree with this since moisture will settle in the post and cast "vessel" The pier the post rest on is like placing brick or similar for a post to set on (old timer trick). Done with a layer of compacted stone adds a good drain factor.

I have always wondered about piers poured at slab level with fabricated post attachment points. Then frame and pour slab like a typical pole barn. Does this approach greatly weaken the tie in to the ground or simply break the pole barn terminology and open a can of worms argument on the structure and code application?
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
I agree with this since moisture will settle in the post and cast "vessel" The pier the post rest on is like placing brick or similar for a post to set on (old timer trick). Done with a layer of compacted stone adds a good drain factor.

I have always wondered about piers poured at slab level with fabricated post attachment points. Then frame and pour slab like a typical pole barn. Does this approach greatly weaken the tie in to the ground or simply break the pole barn terminology and open a can of worms argument on the structure and code application?
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That's how most engineered steel buildings are constructed so I don't see what the issue would be.
 
awheelterd said:
That's how most engineered steel buildings are constructed so I don't see what the issue would be.
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Calling it a barn to go around permits?
 
awheelterd said:
That's how most engineered steel buildings are constructed so I don't see what the issue would be.
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Those are also properly engineered and have crossbracing so they don't rely on the cantilever strength of the post in the ground in concrete. Designing for something resting on the ground is a bit different than something strengthened by the ground.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Those are also properly engineered and have crossbracing so they don't rely on the cantilever strength of the post in the ground in concrete. Designing for something resting on the ground is a bit different than something strengthened by the ground.
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This is what I was after....and also the method I described (pier post on slab level) was related to me as the boundary between permits and that structure better have a stamp.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Those are also properly engineered and have crossbracing so they don't rely on the cantilever strength of the post in the ground in concrete. Designing for something resting on the ground is a bit different than something strengthened by the ground.
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Honest question.

Then are the wetset kits not good? I would think that the pier with a wetset bracket should function the same as the the post in concrete.

I do not like the idea of putting wood in the ground at my house. Be it in concrete or gravel. Too many termites and too high of a water table. I have been planning to do a monolith slab with footers under the posts and utilizing wetset kits.
 
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