Pole barn kits

Ron said:
When I was going to buy a building from R&R - what literally stopped me was I couldnt find anything under $25/sqft installation and had a quote as high as $40...
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And that is why I keep working my way back to a stick built building. Why pay the same amount of money for a pole barn, that looks like a barn, when I could have a stick built that matches my house perfectly
 
I could never make the two prices close, myself.

I kinda dig the open steel trusses of a pole barn and the fact that I don't have to have a footer all the way around the slab for the building to sit on or a few rows of block to build on top of.

That said, do I want to assemble my own building? Not really. Will I to save money? Very likely.

I'll probably run numbers again before I decide what I want to do. It'll be a while, so who knows what could happen.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Ugh. Just made my building w/ their tool and ordered a quote. Got the automated "quote" but there's no price on it.
Not sure what makes it a quote...
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I will say, Friday I got an email with a real quote. $22.7k delivered. Not bad really (for 2022 dollars).

Then this morning I get a call from an unknown 828 number. Since I live 2 states away and 98% of unidentified calls from NC are spam, I answered, "Are you a robot?"
A rather flabbergasted young woman with obvious accent says, "No sir, I'm a real person." :laughing: woops.:dumbass:

She (from R&R) was calling following up! Impressed. I learned that to only yes, will they ship anywhere, but often they work to coordinate w/ other deliveries in the general region to cut down the delivery fee. "few weeks ago we had a guy in NJ and another in NY taking delivery so our guys just loaded it all together and made a weekend trip out of it." She even suggested it's probably more sensible to get the lumber locally instead of buying from them bc of the difference in delivery cost.

I live 'em so far. I need to find a builder though.
 
RatLabGuy said:
I will say, Friday I got an email with a real quote. $22.7k delivered. Not bad really (for 2022 dollars).

Then this morning I get a call from an unknown 828 number. Since I live 2 states away and 98% of unidentified calls from NC are spam, I answered, "Are you a robot?"
A rather flabbergasted young woman with obvious accent says, "No sir, I'm a real person." :laughing: woops.:dumbass:

She (from R&R) was calling following up! Impressed. I learned that to only yes, will they ship anywhere, but often they work to coordinate w/ other deliveries in the general region to cut down the delivery fee. "few weeks ago we had a guy in NJ and another in NY taking delivery so our guys just loaded it all together and made a weekend trip out of it." She even suggested it's probably more sensible to get the lumber locally instead of buying from them bc of the difference in delivery cost.

I live 'em so far. I need to find a builder though.
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Don't hire this guy
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Yall talking $25 per square ft install prices, is that including site prep and concrete or installed on existing pad?

The building I drew up in galvanized carport construction was $37k installed on your existing concrete. The same in pole building + $10/sq ft would probably come out to near the same, but $25 ft would be much higher than carport style + prep.
 
Croatan_Kid said:
I could never make the two prices close, myself.

I kinda dig the open steel trusses of a pole barn and the fact that I don't have to have a footer all the way around the slab for the building to sit on or a few rows of block to build on top of.

That said, do I want to assemble my own building? Not really. Will I to save money? Very likely.
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It's really not that hard. I started mine in 2014 and I'm almost finished.
 
LBarr2002 said:
Yall talking $25 per square ft install prices, is that including site prep and concrete or installed on existing pad?

The building I drew up in galvanized carport construction was $37k installed on your existing concrete. The same in pole building + $10/sq ft would probably come out to near the same, but $25 ft would be much higher than carport style + prep.
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That was me site prepping and concrete.

The prices I was getting was for standing the board up and screwing together and hanging the doors.

I live in a rural area an horu from any major metro and people may not have wanted to travel. That certainly could have played a part.
 
Got my quote and call today. It's about what I was expecting, except that it's trimmed for doors and windows, but not included.
 
awheelterd said:
Builders discount updated their prices yesterday. Things are getting more affordable by the week.
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Sarcasm or serious, my screen doesn't swell up on either account? I have told my son.....save them pennies. When everything is crap in the economy is when the players spend money.
 
@ghost Here is a Builder's Discount pole barn price sheet from May 22 and the current one. I've been watching prices all year, hoping to build a 40x60 myself eventually. Prices have definitely came down. The 40x60 I've been looking at has dropped from $18,9xx to $16,2xx.

I'm waiting on an estimate from 2 different builders on a 40x60 with concrete. I asked them to quote it as just a pole barn and fully enclosed. I'll update if/when I hear back.

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awheelterd said:
Builders discount updated their prices yesterday. Things are getting more affordable by the week.
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Unfortunately this doesn't help with labor costs, which doesn't seem likely to crash any time soon.
WARRIORWELDING said:
Sarcasm or serious, my screen doesn't swell up on either account? I have told my son.....save them pennies. When everything is crap in the economy is when the players spend money.
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This is what I'm shooting for.

It's also how the economy works, when prices are too high, people hold back and things slow down, once it hits an acceptable cost they buy again. Economics 101
 
RatLabGuy said:
Unfortunately this doesn't help with labor costs, which doesn't seem likely to crash any time soon.
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RatLabGuy said:
It's also how the economy works, when prices are too high, people hold back and things slow down, once it hits an acceptable cost they buy again. Economics 101
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🤷‍♂️ Self contradiction in the same post?
 
jeepinmatt said:
🤷‍♂️ Self contradiction in the same post?
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Labor costs and materials costs are driven by very different factors, and change at different rates.
 
untchabl said:
@ghost Here is a Builder's Discount pole barn price sheet from May 22 and the current one. I've been watching prices all year, hoping to build a 40x60 myself eventually. Prices have definitely came down. The 40x60 I've been looking at has dropped from $18,9xx to $16,2xx.

I'm waiting on an estimate from 2 different builders on a 40x60 with concrete. I asked them to quote it as just a pole barn and fully enclosed. I'll update if/when I hear back.

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Yes please do! I know I'm a year from starting that process. If prices don't come down I'll just wait.
 
ghost said:
Yes please do! I know I'm a year from starting that process. If prices don't come down I'll just wait.
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Depending on the price quotes I get, I may not be building anytime soon either. I've got a budget in mind and not sure if it's enough. I'll let you know when I get the quotes back.
 
@ghost and anyone else that's interested. I did price a 40x60x12 "carport style" shop from Luna Metal in Asheboro because my Dad has a 30x48x10 shop from them.

40x60x12 with 3 10'x10' coil doors on one 60' side, one man door, bubble wrap insulation in the roof and two windows was $30k installed (without any site work) plus another $8200 for 4" concrete. This was "non-permitted" so just 4" concrete slab with the building anchored to it, no footers.

My Dad's 30x48x10 in September 2018 was $11,300. Two 10x8 coil doors, two windows and bubble wrap roof insulation, installed with concrete.
 
Out of curiosity for those in the know, are steel trusses generally less expensive than their wood counterpart? Based on the quote above, I'm assuming the answer is yes but also curious about the "carport" style vs. something R&R would be selling.
 
rcalexander105 said:
Out of curiosity for those in the know, are steel trusses generally less expensive than their wood counterpart? Based on the quote above, I'm assuming the answer is yes but also curious about the "carport" style vs. something R&R would be selling.
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Steel trusses are more expensive, BUT, you typically get a longer span between them. Most steel trusses are 10ft spacing, whereas wood is typically 2ft to 4ft range I believe. That also changes the construction. With steel, you run 2x6s truss to truss and typically mount a tin roof directly to it. With wood you put down plywood/OSB and shingles, or purlins and tin. Gotta look at the whole cost. When I built my shop, wood trusses and tin roof would have been the cheapest option if buying new. I found a good deal on some steel trusses on CL so that was the way to go. Also, you get more clear overhead space with steel trusses, which was a major factor for me.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Steel trusses are more expensive, BUT, you typically get a longer span between them. Most steel trusses are 10ft spacing, whereas wood is typically 2ft to 4ft range I believe. That also changes the construction. With steel, you run 2x6s truss to truss and mount the roof directly to it. With wood you put down plywood/OSB and shingles, or purlins and tin.
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Makes sense, I've been milling all these pines down to 2x6s and 10' / 12' lengths. The plan all along was to go w/ an R&R truss but still try'na learn from those who've been there & done that.

To another topic, has anybody used the triple laminated treated posts instead of the solid 6x6 treated posts? The former seems to be better all around (strength, more surface area treated, more economical, etc.). Anybody have any experience w/ them? If so, anybody sourced them locally (NC)?
 
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