Shop building....

paradisePWoffrd said:
only suggestion is to flip the bath and bedroom where it is not against the shop wall. No matter how much insulation, there will still be some vibration transfer.
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maybe thats the point?
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
only suggestion is to flip the bath and bedroom where it is not against the shop wall
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I've got a few of those configurations too :cool:

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jeepinmatt said:
This is why I ended up doing mine myself. The $32k guy is too expensive for my budget, and there is no way the $12k guy is doing it for that price. Just concrete for that size is $5k, so they are selling you the building and putting it up for $7k? If it seems too good to be true, someone is probably full of shit.
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Yep I figured as much. I would love to just have it all done and be done. Finances will not allow that at this time. Right now I'm clearing her land with a chainsaw and my jeep. It's been kind of fun. There is a pole barn on her property but I tapped a pole with my trailer and it moved. So that plan a has been kind of scrapped. I have thought about doing the pad then the building to break it up then electric etc. BUT I have never done anything like that. Also Caster I cannot read the numbers on that post. Looks like a nice shop/living space.
 
ghost said:
Right now I'm clearing her land with a chainsaw and my jeep.
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That's where I am now. Fortunately I have a tractor with a bush hog and bucket,


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but I'll have to pay someone for stump removal and grading

No dimensions on that last one...can you read the dimensions on the ones before that?
 
I cannot read the dimensions Castor. Here is the current pole barn.
 

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ghost said:
I cannot read the dimensions Castor. Here is the current pole barn.
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That is likely worth fixing up some to use a dry storage, but basically need to re-start on a building/shop.
 
paradisePWoffrd said:
That is likely worth fixing up some to use a dry storage, but basically need to re-start on a building/shop.
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Yes I'm seriously considering trying to do something. It has a lot of issues but I think its salvageable. The poles are only about 10' apart and my trailer caught one. It also either broke it at the base or moved it. I think the poles are rotted at ground level. I really don't know much about it. Deanna (the fiance) said it was there when they bought the house 18 years ago. I did find poles on CL for basically $25 20 - 25 feet. @jeepinmatt thanks for letting me come by. Was nice to meet you and the family. Enjoyed looking around. Wish I had more time and did not have to hurry off. Looking at yours and what I have 30' wide with 2 12' wide doors and and about 38' long and what I have in it now. I know I can work with a 30 x 40. I currently have an MJ, 2 xj's and a 51 Ford F1 in my shop. Of course its tight and cluttered as hell but its all in there. The MJ will be out soon I hope. With the boy working he's itching to get it road worthy.....
 
ghost said:
Yes I'm seriously considering trying to do something. It has a lot of issues but I think its salvageable. The poles are only about 10' apart and my trailer caught one. It also either broke it at the base or moved it. I think the poles are rotted at ground level. I really don't know much about it. Deanna (the fiance) said it was there when they bought the house 18 years ago. I did find poles on CL for basically $25 20 - 25 feet. @jeepinmatt thanks for letting me come by. Was nice to meet you and the family. Enjoyed looking around. Wish I had more time and did not have to hurry off. Looking at yours and what I have 30' wide with 2 12' wide doors and and about 38' long and what I have in it now. I know I can work with a 30 x 40. I currently have an MJ, 2 xj's and a 51 Ford F1 in my shop. Of course its tight and cluttered as hell but its all in there. The MJ will be out soon I hope. With the boy working he's itching to get it road worthy.....
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That radial arm saw is still calling your name ;)
 
I took @Loganwayne idea about a mud room and incorporated it.

Here's the latest iteration of the design (floor plan 33)

Garage will be post and truss on slab, apartment to be stick built stud wall on slab, and the carport, lawn garage and rear overhang all gravel.

I don't fabricate, don't have PLANS to become one. This is merely a place to keep my vehicles and do general maint, install lift kits, maybe swap an axle. As well as a place to live while the house is being built, then later a place to keep our aging mothers until they get so senile that we can use fake ID's and drop them of at a retirement home in Oregon and fly home.

Thoughts?



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@CasterTroy have you thought about putting a shower stall in the shop bathroom for when you’v been working and get filthy? I use my basement shower when I’ve been doing yard work or been Wheelin in the muck before going into the house and stripping down and getting yelled at for the mud and dirt.
 
CasterTroy said:
I took @Loganwayne idea about a mud room and incorporated it.

Here's the latest iteration of the design (floor plan 33)

Garage will be post and truss on slab, apartment to be stick built stud wall on slab, and the carport, lawn garage and rear overhang all gravel.

I don't fabricate, don't have PLANS to become one. This is merely a place to keep my vehicles and do general maint, install lift kits, maybe swap an axle. As well as a place to live while the house is being built, then later a place to keep our aging mothers until they get so senile that we can use fake ID's and drop them of at a retirement home in Oregon and fly home.

Thoughts?



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Where are you putting your camper? Underneath the storage platform? Is the camper still in your plans?
 
obullfish said:
@CasterTroy have you thought about putting a shower stall in the shop bathroom for when you’v been working and get filthy?
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Yeah. It really does turn into one of those "well if you're going to do that then you might as well do this scenarios"

I had toyed with flopping the washer and dryer in closet but not making it a closet making it a shower. But every fixture as a potential thousand dollars. I'm $1,000ing myself to death here :lol: but I'm waiting for word back from and inspections department to see what they're going to Define as overloading a septic field. I have a permit for a 4 bedroom home on this site and technically this is only one bedroom and the house will only technically have 3 bedrooms but I'm waiting to hear if showers are taken into consideration or if it's solely based on bedroom with closet definition


tlucier said:
Where are you putting your camper? Underneath the storage platform? Is the camper still in your plans?
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I'm planning to have a gooseneck and put a slide in on the gooseneck. That is what should be going under the lean-to Outback
 
How high is that Storage platform going to be? Longer vehicles on the lift might be an issue, especially with the hood up. On the other, at the right height, it might give access to under the hood without having to bring the vehicle on the lift down...
 
obullfish said:
And while you’re at it you should just build a laser wash for when you get home from Wheelin and have to get the mud off.
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Beside the Helicopter pad....I plan to build two recessed troughs that are 16" wide, and the exact track of a TJ, 9" deep and about 40ft long. They will be filled with 1/2 purple power and water. So I can just DRIVE thru the trough and clean the wheels/tires, and undercarriage. Then 25 oscillating heads built into a pad that I can park over and leave for 20 min or so to rinse. That way, it's a touch-free after-ride clean with the exception of the hand wash of the body panels :huggy:

zuke said:
How high is that Storage platform going to be? Longer vehicles on the lift might be an issue, especially with the hood up. On the other, at the right height, it might give access to under the hood without having to bring the vehicle on the lift down...
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Again, nothing is set in stone at this point. And I'm considering any and all advice. But IF I put a lift in (thickening slab regardless) I think it will be the middle bay and pretty sure I'd not want to try and lift a long vehicle with my limited experience.

But I THINK this may be enough for the cars I own (or potentially will)


And with 14' high walls, I'm thinking a 7'-0" AFF Mezz level, giving me about 6'-4 of headroom (depending on construction) underneath. Ideally I'd LOVE to score some used expanded metal flooring and steel framing, keeping the thickness to a minimum, but wood's cheap
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What is your drive for 14ft walls? Dont get me wrong, I would plan them if budget isnt a concern.

If you move your lift to the center of the bay, you could easily clear 14ft with open rafters without needing 14ft walls. If you are planning to use a 4post down the road for storage, 14ft walls are almost a necessity. They also allow a nice height under additions or lean-to while keeping roof pitch decent.

If you go 14ft walls, I would go 9 or 10ft celiings in the living area, to make it feel more spacious. Also you should plan for it to all be storage space over the living area and carport.

One thing I saw in another house like this, that I thought was cool. They left a ~2ft pathway around the exterior of the living area, along the exterior walls. Both wall sections were still insulated, but you can full access to plumbing and wiring in the walls for any repairs/additions.
 
You know it DOES make better sense to shrink that mezzanine....since it WILL extend over the entire apartment there's no sense in making it wide like that. I threw in the shower so Shane won't smell so bad after helping me stretch my TJ :D

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paradisePWoffrd said:
What is your drive for 14ft walls?
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paradisePWoffrd said:
  • planning to use a 4post down the road for storage
  • They also allow a nice height under additions or lean-to while keeping roof pitch decent.
  • 9 or 10ft celiings in the living area
  • storage space over the living area and carport.
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paradisePWoffrd said:
Also you should plan for it to all be storage space over the living area and carport.
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Area over living will look much like an attic, with mechanical laying on the "floor" to serve below. But there will be a small amount of storage

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I will refer to the HVAC thread & @shawn, but it might be most helpful to have the mechanical system "enclosed" in conditioned space. Also, this footprint might make sense to go with a mini-split vs conventional HP.
 
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