The Dana 35 thread

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Don't listen to all these turd heads. You can build that d35 just fine. I think with the right combination you should be good. No reason to spend all this extra $ on an 8.8 when you can do the d35 wonders for just a few $.
 
obullfish said:
Okay. No real world experience with a Dana Turdy five with a 4 Banger. All I know is I broke my old D35 4:56 gears and open rolling on 33's on no more than what I'd call a logging road. So I built what they call a super 35 with a ARB 4:56 gears and broke the shit out of it again on some mild trails. Went to a TJ D44 and 35's with a super 44 kit and a Detroit and never had another issue as long as I owned it and the new owner hasn't had any issues at all. The moral of this story is your going to spend more in the long run trying to use a D35 but what do we all know. And I did read the entire thread and what I got out of it is you must be related to Fuller!
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Thank you for the info. Can I ask how much buying the 44 cost you and how much the super 44 kit costs? Also, what specifically did you break with the super 35 kit?
I would imagine the person you are referring to, fuller must have thought differently than the herd, and it is an attempt at an insult?
 
Okay first your dumb for selling the 8.8, they don't need aftermarket shafts. I've been on 35s with a mini spool for 4 years and give the jeep hell and they haven't broke. Actually broke a mini spool shafts still fine. What gear is your jeep now? 3.73 and 4.10 can be found in a 8.8. if you go 8.8 there isn't a reason to go with a full case locker they are strongerish so a lockright and gears would set you back 500-650 bucks and then you never have to think about it again

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YJJPWrangler said:
I did address your question with my Buddy's TJ. You know, the one we picked pieces of ring and pinion gear out of the housing after it grenaded?

8.8s and D44s are not unbreakable. Everything can break, D60s, rockwells, they all have their breaking point. A D35 has a very high chance of breaking something regardless what you have upgraded because of its design. The point I am making is that 8.8s, 44s are stronger, give you better options, and gives you peace of mind on the trail. When I go wheel, I don't want to constantly think about something breaking or how I'm gonna get it home or the holdup/headaches from other people when my junk is broken in the middle of the trail. Thats why I'm taking the time to build my D44s even if its $$. It will be worth it and when I get talked into a LS1 and one tons I can get some money back out of my set. People give D35s away for free all the time.

Nobody builds D35s, because there is no point. Once you drop $500-1000 into the D35 and then wheel it and break it, you will then either throw more money into it or build a stronger axle. Why take the chance? Why spend all that money on something that everyone knows is weak.

This has to be a late Aprils Fools Joke....
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How is the design of the dana 35 different than the dana 44 and Ford 8.8? And please explain how this design difference makes the 44 and 8.8 stronger?
 
junkxj said:
How is the design of the dana 35 different than the dana 44 and Ford 8.8? And please explain how this design difference makes the 44 and 8.8 stronger?
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Ring gear size, pinion gear size, tube size, shaft size... basically size matters
 
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junkxj said:
How is the design of the dana 35 different than the dana 44 and Ford 8.8? And please explain how this design difference makes the 44 and 8.8 stronger?
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See above. Everyone else has already answered. What gearing is your jeep now? You can most likely find a 8.8 with the correct gearing in a junkyard for cheap. Thats how I did mine. I welded on new spring perches, hooked the brakes up and wheeled it.

Still calling April Fools/epic trolling...
 
YJJPWrangler said:
See above. Everyone else has already answered. What gearing is your jeep now? You can most likely find a 8.8 with the correct gearing in a junkyard for cheap. Thats how I did mine. I welded on new spring perches, hooked the brakes up and wheeled it.

Still calling April Fools/epic trolling...
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But they posted on the 2nd???

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Out.
Logan wins
 
Dylan W. said:
Don't waste money on the 4340s or a locker for you 35. I did this exact setup that you're talking about, in my 4 banger tj. 23 spline 4340s on 34 tsls.
One mild urban wheeling trip and everything kersploded!! Cost me lots of money when it broke. Had to get a new rear end,pay for a tow bill...and pay a ticket for a hydrant parking violation. View attachment 244862
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Liar. There's no way that's your TJ...
Where's the side steps?
 
junkxj said:
The only thing that makes me weary about going that route is if someone is wanting a bigger axle, chances are they have beat on the old one hard enough to break parts, which could lead to problems with that axle down the road .
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You're worried about problems with an axle down the road because a previous owner broke parts, but you're interested in upgrading a Dana 35 which is synonymous with break parts and problems down the road?

junkxj said:
That's would make me question the strength of an arb locker. I have mostly heard good things about everything they make, and I have liked all the OME stuff I have owned. But, breaking a full Carrier locker with that small of a tire makes you think...
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The locker broke because of housing flex. ARB did the best they could with the packaging limitations they had.

Add a lockright cross shaft to the list of broken parts, I forgot about that one.
 
Loganwayne said:
Okay first your dumb for selling the 8.8, they don't need aftermarket shafts. I've been on 35s with a mini spool for 4 years and give the jeep hell and they haven't broke. Actually broke a mini spool shafts still fine. What gear is your jeep now? 3.73 and 4.10 can be found in a 8.8. if you go 8.8 there isn't a reason to go with a full case locker they are strongerish so a lockright and gears would set you back 500-650 bucks and then you never have to think about it again

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Thank you for insulting me. I actually made some money on the 8.8, so I don't feel that dumb for selling it. I for at least the fourth time, am not asking for opinions on a Ford 8.8. But the fact you broke a vital part of one makes the thought of installing one all the more appealing.
My jeep is currently geared 4.10, but I would like to have at very minimum 4.88 as it is a 4cyl. As far as I know this is not a gearing option that ever came in a 8.8. As far as the carrier goes, they are known to be weak, if you don't belive me please research other forums that have a larger amount of 8.8 being used. Many, many examples out there of broken carriers from the 8.8

So, pointing out these two blaring emissions from your thought process, the budget of $500-650 is of course not accurate.
 
Lockers 250, gears can be had under 200. That leaves 200 for install. "Vital part" lol no I still drove it off the trail and wheeled the rest of the weekend with it broke. An 8.8 is know for a weak carrier..... But a 35 has a weak...Everything its pretty obvious you don't give a shit about any logical information provided to you. Im out

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junkxj said:
Thank you for the info. Can I ask how much buying the 44 cost you and how much the super 44 kit costs? Also, what specifically did you break with the super 35 kit?
I would imagine the person you are referring to, fuller must have thought differently than the herd, and it is an attempt at an insult?
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Evidently out of your budget. Broke ring and pinion once 2 shafts and an ARB. Warped the heck out of the housing also.
 
jeepinmatt said:
You're worried about problems with an axle down the road because a previous owner broke parts, but you're interested in upgrading a Dana 35 which is synonymous with break parts and problems down the road?
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Very much so. I know the rear axle in my jeep is at least straight enough to be usable. If I buy an axle that has been modified to fit a truck it didn't come from, and used under conditions it wasn't intended for than , yes I would think about it. Add to the fact that some built this axle because they more than likely broke a different axle it replaced, and I would have to question the condition of said axle.
Without being able to bolt this axle in my jeep, and try it, I would think it isn't crazy to wonder about the condition of the axle.
 
Loganwayne said:
Lockers 250, gears can be had under 200. That leaves 200 for install. "Vital part" lol no I still drove it off the trail and wheeled the rest of the weekend with it broke. An 8.8 is know for a weak carrier..... But a 35 has a weak...Everything its pretty obvious you don't give a shit about any logical information provided to you. Im out

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You broke a mini spool, and wheeled it the rest of the weekend? I actually can't think of anything to say when you follow this up with " obvious you don't give a shit about any logical information provided to you" Logic to me would dictate some forms of non broken Carrier internals to wheel at a place that necessities the need for a 8.8 in the first place....
 
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