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There's your problem. You are eating women's steak. Yeah, it's a decent size, but it's still genetically designed to make your boobies and hips bigger. Man up and get a ribeye.
@UTfball68, that light switch for food/alcohol can be a hard switch to turn off especially in the moment. Next time you and the wife go out, set some realistic goals that can be achieved. 2 drinks, 1 roll, etc. It can be tough but rewarding, especially the next day.
UT...I'm going to qualify this post before I start. This is going to sound harsh, but I'm posting what I told myself and not what Im telling you. Hopefully it helps. It was a mindset reset for me. Im brutal on myself.
#1 look around and tell me how many obese 70 year olds you can find. Ill wait. Im betting the answer, if you are honest with yourself is 1 or 2 at most. Why? Because obese people die before they are 70. Ive been "big" "husky" "broad shouldered" "thick chested" all my life. Those are euphamisms for fat. The blessing and curse is I can add (or lose) 50lbs and a friend might say..you look like you've put on (or lost) 10 lbs. Well guess what...just because a heroin addict hides their addiction it doesnt make it any less deadly. I now truly believe that if I dont fix my obesity I will die before I'm 70. I wouldn't care so much, but Im 40 and my baby is 15. In 30 years she will be 45...I hope I have more than 5 years left with my parents.
So if I truly believe I have to fix this then that is the goal and the sacrifice is to achieve the goal.
Sure you can slack off on that one practice rep and still start Friday/Saturday. That's not the end of the world. We are all human. But slack off on too many and that young hungry lion behind you will catch you. Same with this. One mistake now and then...ok now you have to work harder tomorrow. Or just throw your hands up and let it beat the shit out of you...hope you enjoy the bench.
I bring a Christian perspective to this, I am not going to preach to you....that isnt my style, but I use that as a disclaimer for my frame of reference. I believe strongly that we all have a cross to bear. All our crosses are different but he struggle is the same. We all have strengths and we all have weaknesses. Food and weight is my weakness. Business and Finance is my strength. I have an acquaintance who he and I have tough love opened each others eyes. He is a 31" waist and really doesnt work hard at it. He loves to "fat shame" and will tell you anyone over a 34" waist is a dredge on society...ups health care costs etc. He says "its aint that hard eat less move more"...for a long time it bothered me. One day he and I were talking and this conversation came up. He couldnt understand why I was "a fat slob" when so many other aspects of my life were in order. He was enthralled by my business and real estate deals and was looking for insight. Thats when this clicked. For me putting deals together and making a profit, is easy. Yes I have researched and learned and strive to be an expert is every industry I dabble in. And while its been work, it hasnt been hard. There is this internal, intrinsic drive. So when I wanted to stat buying rental properties I bought the text books for a real estate class and I read 42 hours in a 48 hour weekend. No one put a gun to my head it was just this driven maniacal focus that wanted to consume that knowledge. I was excited about it. It didnt even feel like work. It wouldnt have even registered as a life event, except I heard my wife telling a friend about how driven I was and I stopped and said...oh shit...I did that. In my mind I just read a couple books. Same thing goes with my buddy and his weight. He doesnt try to analyze his foods, prrrotion this or that, make deals with himself about if I will only be good for 30 days Ill allow myself to have X. He doesnt look at a menu and get anxious...wondering if he will pick the wrong thing. Food doesnt control his life. But it controls mine. He tells the same sort of stories about money. Dude has a Wharton MBA works for BOA....makes decent money...has 4 spread sheets for monthly bills...but kills his finances with "rewards". Now maybe @RatLabGuy can break the pleasure/reward center down in our brains and tell us what protein makes us respond to what stimuli...but I dont really care. The key is simply recognize its there. This is my cross...I am being challenged to overcome it.
E-knowing you, I think in a lot of ways we are pretty similar. If you had a friend who came to you about getting out of debt. Was doing really good. Then one day you went over to their house and they had a brand new SuperDuty in the driveway....and they said "Well Ive been working so hard. Man my truck broke down it need a new tranny, was going to cost $3k. And with all the bills Ive paid off I had an extra $750 month and man I DESERVE THIS MF'ing truck. Only live once."...your reaction is probably 'nice truck' but its the reason you are broke. Suck it up snow flake, no one deserves a truck. Get over yourself.
Those rolls and potatoes are mine and your truck.
I'll say it again for this thread. At 33 I lost 70 lbs in 4 months. It was easy in all honestly. At 40...its a damn daily struggle, actually struggle isnt bad enough, it s a war - to get 10 off.
Finally...the real freedom is in the freedom. I dont have to lose weight. Im welcome to die at 400lbs...Ive earned that right. I can afford the food bill and its no one's business but mine if I do.
But I dont want to. I want to extend my life and see my babies grow. Ive often said Id take a bullet for them in a heartbeat. If I mean that, if I truly would take a bullet for them, then putting a damn cookie down shouldnt be so hard.
Thats my motivation. Thats my Y. Thats why I cant fail this time. The stakes are too high.
YMMV.
UT...I'm going to qualify this post before I start. This is going to sound harsh, but I'm posting what I told myself and not what Im telling you. Hopefully it helps. It was a mindset reset for me. Im brutal on myself.
#1 look around and tell me how many obese 70 year olds you can find. Ill wait. Im betting the answer, if you are honest with yourself is 1 or 2 at most. Why? Because obese people die before they are 70. Ive been "big" "husky" "broad shouldered" "thick chested" all my life. Those are euphamisms for fat. The blessing and curse is I can add (or lose) 50lbs and a friend might say..you look like you've put on (or lost) 10 lbs. Well guess what...just because a heroin addict hides their addiction it doesnt make it any less deadly. I now truly believe that if I dont fix my obesity I will die before I'm 70. I wouldn't care so much, but Im 40 and my baby is 15. In 30 years she will be 45...I hope I have more than 5 years left with my parents.
So if I truly believe I have to fix this then that is the goal and the sacrifice is to achieve the goal.
Sure you can slack off on that one practice rep and still start Friday/Saturday. That's not the end of the world. We are all human. But slack off on too many and that young hungry lion behind you will catch you. Same with this. One mistake now and then...ok now you have to work harder tomorrow. Or just throw your hands up and let it beat the shit out of you...hope you enjoy the bench.
I bring a Christian perspective to this, I am not going to preach to you....that isnt my style, but I use that as a disclaimer for my frame of reference. I believe strongly that we all have a cross to bear. All our crosses are different but he struggle is the same. We all have strengths and we all have weaknesses. Food and weight is my weakness. Business and Finance is my strength. I have an acquaintance who he and I have tough love opened each others eyes. He is a 31" waist and really doesnt work hard at it. He loves to "fat shame" and will tell you anyone over a 34" waist is a dredge on society...ups health care costs etc. He says "its aint that hard eat less move more"...for a long time it bothered me. One day he and I were talking and this conversation came up. He couldnt understand why I was "a fat slob" when so many other aspects of my life were in order. He was enthralled by my business and real estate deals and was looking for insight. Thats when this clicked. For me putting deals together and making a profit, is easy. Yes I have researched and learned and strive to be an expert is every industry I dabble in. And while its been work, it hasnt been hard. There is this internal, intrinsic drive. So when I wanted to stat buying rental properties I bought the text books for a real estate class and I read 42 hours in a 48 hour weekend. No one put a gun to my head it was just this driven maniacal focus that wanted to consume that knowledge. I was excited about it. It didnt even feel like work. It wouldnt have even registered as a life event, except I heard my wife telling a friend about how driven I was and I stopped and said...oh shit...I did that. In my mind I just read a couple books. Same thing goes with my buddy and his weight. He doesnt try to analyze his foods, prrrotion this or that, make deals with himself about if I will only be good for 30 days Ill allow myself to have X. He doesnt look at a menu and get anxious...wondering if he will pick the wrong thing. Food doesnt control his life. But it controls mine. He tells the same sort of stories about money. Dude has a Wharton MBA works for BOA....makes decent money...has 4 spread sheets for monthly bills...but kills his finances with "rewards". Now maybe @RatLabGuy can break the pleasure/reward center down in our brains and tell us what protein makes us respond to what stimuli...but I dont really care. The key is simply recognize its there. This is my cross...I am being challenged to overcome it.
E-knowing you, I think in a lot of ways we are pretty similar. If you had a friend who came to you about getting out of debt. Was doing really good. Then one day you went over to their house and they had a brand new SuperDuty in the driveway....and they said "Well Ive been working so hard. Man my truck broke down it need a new tranny, was going to cost $3k. And with all the bills Ive paid off I had an extra $750 month and man I DESERVE THIS MF'ing truck. Only live once."...your reaction is probably 'nice truck' but its the reason you are broke. Suck it up snow flake, no one deserves a truck. Get over yourself.
Those rolls and potatoes are mine and your truck.
I'll say it again for this thread. At 33 I lost 70 lbs in 4 months. It was easy in all honestly. At 40...its a damn daily struggle, actually struggle isnt bad enough, it s a war - to get 10 off.
Finally...the real freedom is in the freedom. I dont have to lose weight. Im welcome to die at 400lbs...Ive earned that right. I can afford the food bill and its no one's business but mine if I do.
But I dont want to. I want to extend my life and see my babies grow. Ive often said Id take a bullet for them in a heartbeat. If I mean that, if I truly would take a bullet for them, then putting a damn cookie down shouldnt be so hard.
Thats my motivation. Thats my Y. Thats why I cant fail this time. The stakes are too high.
YMMV.
I'm can admit, that literally gave me goosebumps and choked me up a bit. Thanks for that. It's weird to have this kind of 'relief' from a bunch of internet guys I've never even met. Weight is the one thing in my life, for whatever reason, I haven't been able control, or at the very least turn into a positive. Never needed/wanted support from anybody...I'll do it on my own, but weight, I haven't been able to. But THAT, is what I needed to hear and will get printed out. Truly, Ron, I appreciate it.
Now I'm gonna go get a Kleenex, a tampon and hit something with my purse.
Bringing the heat with the facts! That was some real stuff. I struggle the same way. Amazing how I never realized the difference of situations. I mean, 29 and debt free cause me and the wife put our minds to it and did it. Now here I am struggling with over eating.
I think you and @rockcity nailed it. It’s a mindset change and that’s what I’m working on. I get too much enjoyment from food. Food itself doesn’t need to be my reward for doing something well. I need to see food as something I need not want, so like money I should choose what makes the most economical (healthy) sense and move on. Not saying I can’t enjoy it along the way and have those times where I enjoy a sweet or something.
But what you said at the end got me, most any of us would take a bullet and lay down our lives for our kids, or maybe any kid for the matter, so why in the world would we not do more to pro-long our lives to be with them???
I may have some good answers...but I still need to read them myself.
305.0 this morning down from 318.2 on 12/27.
By schedule today is the 6th day. The re-feed. But Im delaying it because I want faster results.
Weekly update
Goal 1(no beer) - Check
Goal 2 (stay on diet) - Check
Goal 3 (move fatass) - Fail
Goal 4 (See a Dr.) - Fail
So Im either a HOF baseball player with my .500 or a half ass....but for now the weight is still falling
I've always heard a good way to "trick" the brain with this too is using smaller plates (i.e., instead of a dinner plate use the app plate when eating at home).There is a ton of great stuff going on in this thread. I think the biggest "wow" moment for me was actually portioning out my food instead of just filling the plate up. When you portion it out before hand, yes its going to be smaller than what I would normally eat but I feel "full" afterwards. The "full" feeling isn't coming from your stomach, its coming from your brain. Weight-loss/healthy living is as much physical work if not more mental work than anything.
There is a ton of great stuff going on in this thread. I think the biggest "wow" moment for me was actually portioning out my food instead of just filling the plate up. When you portion it out before hand, yes its going to be smaller than what I would normally eat but I feel "full" afterwards. The "full" feeling isn't coming from your stomach, its coming from your brain. Weight-loss/healthy living is as much physical work if not more mental work than anything.
But see...if Im honest. I dont wanna. See the diet is moving the scale needle. ANd if the blood work comes back all crazy they are going to want to start me on cholesterol meds, and blood pressure meds and all sorts of other ish that the root cause is the fat. I wanna lose the fat and solve the problems holistically.
I've always heard a good way to "trick" the brain with this too is using smaller plates (i.e., instead of a dinner plate use the app plate when eating at home).
But see...if Im honest. I dont wanna. See the diet is moving the scale needle. ANd if the blood work comes back all crazy they are going to want to start me on cholesterol meds, and blood pressure meds and all sorts of other ish that the root cause is the fat. I wanna lose the fat and solve the problems holistically.
I know its not that simple, thats either /or black/white...Im just giving you a glimpse inside my brain.
But see...if Im honest. I dont wanna. See the diet is moving the scale needle. ANd if the blood work comes back all crazy they are going to want to start me on cholesterol meds, and blood pressure meds and all sorts of other ish that the root cause is the fat. I wanna lose the fat and solve the problems holistically.
I know its not that simple, thats either /or black/white...Im just giving you a glimpse inside my brain.