World Population

RatLabGuy said:

Predictions: China’s record-low births will leave a global mark

A longer-term economic impact comes from a shrinking labour force
www.ft.com

China deletes leaked stats showing plunging birth rate for 2023

Report said China’s population had fallen by 3.1 million this year.
www.rfa.org

BLUF: China's major advantage overt he world - having shitpiles of people - is vanishing quickly and likely headed to economic collapse.
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This will be interesting to see what unfolds.

Quick search and from one source (the CIA, because we know that we can trust them).


Death and Birth Rates/1000 for China and US.
China
Death: 7.8
Birth: 9.7
shows and increase of 1.9/1000
Reported Pop. growth was 0.18%

US
Death: 8.4
Birth: 12.2
shows an increase of 3.8/1000
Reported Pop. growth was 0.68%

Interesting that 40 out of 236 countries showed a reduction in their population. Population growth rate
 
RatLabGuy said:

Predictions: China’s record-low births will leave a global mark

A longer-term economic impact comes from a shrinking labour force
www.ft.com

China deletes leaked stats showing plunging birth rate for 2023

Report said China’s population had fallen by 3.1 million this year.
www.rfa.org

BLUF: China's major advantage overt he world - having shitpiles of people - is vanishing quickly and likely headed to economic collapse.
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This is gonna really suck for the PEOPLE of China, many of whom already have relatively shitty lives. However, this is exactly what I would wish on their govermint.
 
I watched some snooty geopolitical dude about a year ago predict this and the collapse of their economy within 10 years. One factor being is what you guys mentioned with population, the other is they don’t create anything. They steal and reverse engineer. If that ability is taken away they fall. So he says. I’m not clear on how you stop the reverse engineering. They’ll find a way.
 
mbalbritton said:
so glad we're building 2-3 parks in China. :rolleyes:

I was worried when they told me that 5 years ago. I said "Bad Idea". But on the plus side, how many people get to say they run a production facility in the US that is manufacturing products going to China?
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I mean even if the population drops by 10 million a year and they do nothing to correct it, it will take almost a hundred years to have as few people as the US. Think about how much the world has changed since 1923.
 
jeepinmatt said:
I mean even if the population drops by 10 million a year and they do nothing to correct it, it will take almost a hundred years to have as few people as the US. Think about how much the world has changed since 1923.
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And land area wise... we're not too different in size.
Just goes to show how many people are there.

(and of course we also have a shit ton of space w/o people)
 
drkelly said:

Japan’s Population Falls at Record Rate

A diminishing population, which Japan has faced for 15 years, poses multiple challenges for the country, including labor shortage.
time.com
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The irony of their labor shortage is that they are some of the most racist (or at least ethno-centric) people of Earth and treat domestic resident foreigners like crap.
 
RatLabGuy said:
The irony of their labor shortage is that they are some of the most racist (or at least ethno-centric) people of Earth and treat domestic resident foreigners like crap.
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My best friend lived over there for a few years as a teacher. Said anywhere outside of the school, she always got funny looks and snide comments.



Granted, she's a 6'3" redhead. I'm sure that doesn't help lol.
 
benXJ said:
Wanting/preffering a more homogeneous population is racist?

there are examples of a more homogeneous populations being a bit less volatile
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To answer your question, yes it is if it categorizes the homogeneous population based on race.

Now, the real question is: can a case be made for reasonable racism or any other 'ism?

I would say there is a legitimate argument on some level that a population can say we don't want to deal with variance in X factor because of the friction/additional logistics it causes. I don't agree with it as a solution, particularly at the National level. But I'm not a citizen of Japan.
 

Russia’s Birth Rate Plunges to 200-Year Low - The Moscow Times

Russia’s attempts to boost its flagging birth rate — through policies promoting “traditional values,” tighter abortion restrictions and officials’ encouragement of larger families — appear to be falling short, as the number of births has fallen to its lowest level in centuries.
www.themoscowtimes.com
 
drkelly said:

Russia’s Birth Rate Plunges to 200-Year Low - The Moscow Times

Russia’s attempts to boost its flagging birth rate — through policies promoting “traditional values,” tighter abortion restrictions and officials’ encouragement of larger families — appear to be falling short, as the number of births has fallen to its lowest level in centuries.
www.themoscowtimes.com
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I'm a little surprised they let that out.
Makes you wonder what the part is that you're not reading.
 

Japan's plans to tackle population crisis in 2025

Japanese policymakers are increasingly anxious that the country's birth rate is nearing the point of no return.
www.newsweek.com



Why China’s population numbers are almost certainly wrong

China has inflated its population data so much that its status as the world’s most populous country may be false. This happens so provinces can get education subsidies and Beijing can hide the results of decades of family planning.
www.scmp.com


Not unique to Russia at all. The only countries that have population boom are those that take in migrants en mass right now. It’s not like it was where more kids equal more farm hands, children are increasingly sheltered and coddled in the first world now and no support is provided to parents unless they are. A single mom below the poverty line
 
I still can't understand why declining # of humans is a bad thing

there is plenty of time to adjust, and can you imagine the utopia of more open spaces, less pollution of all type, more forests, more farm land, more wildlife with half the number of people!

one side is saying AI will take jobs, while one side wants more people alive to do.......what?
 
Shreddinlettuce said:

Japan's plans to tackle population crisis in 2025

Japanese policymakers are increasingly anxious that the country's birth rate is nearing the point of no return.
www.newsweek.com



Why China’s population numbers are almost certainly wrong

China has inflated its population data so much that its status as the world’s most populous country may be false. This happens so provinces can get education subsidies and Beijing can hide the results of decades of family planning.
www.scmp.com


Not unique to Russia at all. The only countries that have population boom are those that take in migrants en mass right now. It’s not like it was where more kids equal more farm hands, children are increasingly sheltered and coddled in the first world now and no support is provided to parents unless they are. A single mom below the poverty line
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Yep, it is happening all over. South Korea's birth rate is down to 0.72! Their population is predicted to be cut in half by 2100!
 


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