If you can find someone, $20-40 per yard to spread.
Lawn and Landscape
- Thread starter RobMcBee
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All of those are broadleaf and need to be sprayed with a broadleaf weed killer. Pre em does nothing for them The granular products with broadleaf killer in the are not very effective plus they have fert in them that will not be a good idea to apply if you're also doing fert and pre em. Get the hose-end Weed B Gone spray bottles and spray those weeds any time soon on a warm, non windy day. They cover about 3000sq ft per bottle so buy accordingly. You can buy concentrated products that you mix and spray also. If you use the spray bottles, take the cap off before spraying and squirt some Dawn or equivalent dishwashing liquid in there to help the chemical stick to the leaves of the weeds. It will not hurt your fescue at all.Yeah, the rep at the landscape supply store I talked to in October said end of Feb/first of March but to watch the temperatures. We've got oxalis, clover, spurge, centipede, and bermuda we're trying to choke out along with the crabgrass and dandelions.
(except centipede and bermuda aren't broadleaf)
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Problem is, we've got to spray about 15-20ksf. @trailhugger talked to the local supplier about what to put down/when, etc, and they recommended against pre emergent as well, but because they said with our current coverage and weed issues, we'd be better off trying to kill as much of the weeds and getting more grass seed down.
So she called around to see about getting a service to come kill everything, but they just want to put us on their "program" - starting with pre em, fertilizer, etc, and told us that we shouldn't overseed now. I get it - results aren't going to be great. But if we don't put down more seed and kill all the weeds, there won't be shit else left out there.
Looking at a tow-behind sprayer for the mower, but having trouble figuring out how far the sprays will go. Sounds like it might be worth it just to get the bigger one:
NorthStar Tow-Behind Boom Broadcast and Spot Sprayer 21-Gallon Capacity, 2.2 GPM, 12 Volt DC | Trailer Sprayers| Northern Tool + Equipment
drkelly
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Shawn,
@RenegadeT has a big lawn and uses one of those pull behind sprayers. Maybe he will chime in with his experience.
@RenegadeT has a big lawn and uses one of those pull behind sprayers. Maybe he will chime in with his experience.
YJJPWrangler
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Got a lot done at our house this weekend. 15cy of cedar mulch, 6yds of topsoil and 2 pallets of landscaping rock. Also aerated and put down liquid weed/feed. Will start seeding in 3-4 weeks if the weather stays nice.
jeepinmatt
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Get one of these 15 Gallon Spot Sprayer 12 Volt and mount it to the ATV or SXS you've been looking for an excuse to buy. Thats how I do the 3/4 acre of yard I have, and couple miles of dirtbike/atv trails for poison ivy control.
drkelly
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I have one of those that I put in my yard cart and pull behind my mower. I put a 25' extension hose on it so it has 40' now. We use it to spray all the weeds in the natural areas that we are trying to keep nice. I think I bought mine at Tractor Supply.
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Needs to have a boom arm or some kind of broadcast option. I'd buy a dozen hose-end bottles and use those before I'd use a spot sprayer on the whole yard.
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So if the Ortho stuff says to wait 2 days after mowing to spray and we mowed after lunch yesterday...is that tomorrow or Wednesday? I'm assuming that's so it doesn't also damage the grass we want to keep?
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I have a pull behind 15 gallon 12v sprayed, boom is like 4ft wide with 3 nozzles, covers maybe 10 feet per pass. Got it a tractor supply, I want to say $150 or so. It works pretty good and doesn't take more than an hour to spray my lawn, which I estimate around 40k sq ft. I was doing real good when we didn't have dogs, I was putting down 2-4d every 2-6 weeks. Weeds were. About gone, my problem was getting decent grass established in that much area. I struggle with time to move sprinklers around, and also don't really have the water pressure needed for multiple or long distance sprinklers. To make it even worse, my yard is a decent slope, so any loose soil washes away quickly.
A couple years ago, we got more puppies who roam the yard, i.e. tear it up. I havent been spraying any weed killer, just premergent and throwing seed down in the fall. Yard looks like crap, all sorts of things growing, I just make sure I mow the weeds every week. The kids and dogs don't seem to care, so fawk it.
A couple years ago, we got more puppies who roam the yard, i.e. tear it up. I havent been spraying any weed killer, just premergent and throwing seed down in the fall. Yard looks like crap, all sorts of things growing, I just make sure I mow the weeds every week. The kids and dogs don't seem to care, so fawk it.
jeepinmatt
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Look man, I'm just trying to give you an affordable sprayer option to facilitate the unjustifiable SxS purchase. Let's don't get bogged down in real details.
drkelly
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I believe it is to prevent damage to the freshly cut grass. I guess the cut edges seal over after 2 days. I think cut on Sunday = spray on Tuesday or Wednesday. Don't do like I did one time and spray it right after mowing in July, LOL. Two weeks later, half my grass was dead.
I need to address my lawn this weekend. I was hoping to address it after doing my paver job I had planned but the nice weather has already started bringing broadleaf weeds.
Side note, for those that use mulch on their property, has anyone used cedar? I've heard it's kinda expensive but the cedar does keep bugs out? My neighbor told me that and he tends to be full of shit but I want to spruce up my front and backyard, with relatively low amount of work and money while I tackle more important jobs.
Side note, for those that use mulch on their property, has anyone used cedar? I've heard it's kinda expensive but the cedar does keep bugs out? My neighbor told me that and he tends to be full of shit but I want to spruce up my front and backyard, with relatively low amount of work and money while I tackle more important jobs.
YJJPWrangler
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We just put down 15cy of cedar mulch at our house. The cedar does help in keeping the bugs/pest out. We used Atlantic Landscaping Supply on Brookshire. IIRC, Cedar Mulch was $34 a yard. Cypress was $28/29? So the price difference was negligible. Delivery charge of $40 and they delivered it within an hour. Pretty happy with them and their cedar was very fresh.
YJJPWrangler
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Here's some pics.
YJJPWrangler
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Honestly, it varies. We put the cedar down over the old mulch. When I did a rough guesstimate, I went with 2" of covering but it ended up being 3-5" or so. Luckily, we were able to mulch around mailbox and a front planter as well. We ended up with no excess mulch and we used every piece of landscape stone as well. The wife wants to get another pallet of stone in the future to make the rock wall a tad higher but it will work for now. You can't step outside my house without smelling the cedar. It spread very easily. We had 3 wheelbarrows/pitchforks and had 3 people on it. Took about 2 hrs to spread 15cy out and thats with a lunch break. Call Atlantic Landscaping, good people to work with and they have great products.
The reason that you wait is because you just cut off the fresh leaf surface of the weeds that you are trying to kill. You need a little bit of growth for the chemical to be taken in through the leaves and into the plant.; It won't hurt your freshly mowed grass.
I say plan to aerate heavy, seed, and fertilize with starter fert now. It's optimum time to get seed started. After the new grass has been mowed 2-3 times then you can spray your broadleaf weeds out of it and it won't hurt your new grass. About a week after spraying 24d, apply fert with pre emergent. You may get some crabgrass before that but probably not significant. The ONLY way to kill Bermuda and Centipede is with round up when it is ACTIVELY growing in July August. Unless you have a sprinkler system you probably won't be able to keep a pure fescue stand anyway so yoou may want to learn to live with a mixed stand of "turf" and let what prospers in each area grow. If you choose to kill out bermuda and centipede you have to spray several times starting late July/early August and even dig it up a little to kill bermuda roots.
Spraying 15-20k sq ft is not as bad as it seems. Even a backpack sprayer can do it, Just be aware of your coverage, mixture, and be patient. I sprayed a 25k yard last year in an emergency when I was far from home and only hd the backpack. It took me about an hour and half.
There are 3 Site One Landscape stores in Raleigh, Site one Raleigh, nc - Google Search , Please check with them as they are very knowledgeable and have the best products. You can buy Momentum for your 24d application along with some surfactant. Print out my text here and take to them if you have any doubt about what I'm telling you.
I think that this is your best plan of action.
Also, I bet they can recomend someone who will come and do a one time app for your broadlead if you would rather go that route, but keep in mind that one app may not get them all. Oxalis especially is a tough one to kill.
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YJJPWrangler
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@R Q, my yard is a mix of fescue, clover, weeds. My neighbor has a beautiful yard. I'm talking Home and Garden Show Quality, its unreal. I aerated on Sunday and put out Weed/Feed. I am planning on seeding/fert heavy in the coming weeks(after the Weed/Feed has died out.) Does this sound like a good game plan?
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WELL... since you already put out the weed and feed, sure, lol. It's best to aerate before you seed, apply starter fert, and your seed and then water, water, water. If it's never been limed, you'll need to do that too. I'll repost some details about Spring in the morning, on my way out the door now...
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I kept hearing & was told about a Killer that "Sterilizes" the ground, so Nothing will grow there. Seems like it was a "Perma" or Previ, something like that. I went to Tractor supply & asked them. O Yea we know what you want, not expensive when you consider the coverage! Came in a 2 1/2 gallon jug, about $60. Gly Star Plus, a isopropylamine salt at 41%. By the directions that I could make no sense of, it's used by Farmers covering Acres. I started with 1oz/gal. & kept working the concentration up to 5oz/gal. Fawlking waste!!! Yea, it Smells, & turns sprayed area yellow after a week or more. Somewhat kills weeds & grass. Not much effect on heavy brush! AND, the kill last maybe 4-5 weeks. I'd been better off with Round-Up! My main objective was to Kill the grass in my grave driveway, & some other places. Maybe I should just buy stock in Bleach & Vinegar? 