....Black Sheep....

I value any suggestions or ideas. (Mainly because I don’t know what the hell i’m doing)! And Chris knows more than I do about Toyota stuff.
but with that said, I am going to build the frame to mimic the factory frame, just without all the flaws! (Hopefully):D:beer:
I’ll post pics when done. :beer::rockon:
 
Chris_Keziah said:
I won't be surprised at this point if an F-Toy kit isn't on the table.
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Will you ZIP IT!!


I want this truck out on the trails before 2026. Any further high-dives into that rabbit hole and he'll be so deep (in debt, in trouble, and past the point of no return) he may be too old and cripple to finish :cool:

K.I.S.S. and get it out on the trail FIRST...then we can upgrade :rockon:
 
CasterTroy said:
Will you ZIP IT!!


I want this truck out on the trails before 2026. Any further high-dives into that rabbit hole and he'll be so deep (in debt, in trouble, and past the point of no return) he may be too old and cripple to finish :cool:

K.I.S.S. and get it out on the trail FIRST...then we can upgrade :rockon:
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He's already further along than most would be at this point, I think Nakoma's drive to get back on the trails in his own rig will have this thing done by the summer.
 
Nakoma said:
Damn I hope! But y’all gonna have to keep me from chasing rabbits!
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Then go buy a new frame and leave it on leafs for now, if you keep moving at the rate you have been then you'll be ready for the February ride. Then build a new frame while still wheeling the pickup and swap the frame and link it next winter.
 
If you plan on keeping stock width axles, I would go as about as narrow for the front section of the frame as you can with your desired engine (since you won't have to keep it wide enough for leaf mounts if you're going coilovers) that way you can get full steering angle with large tires without having to go with hugely offset wheels to keep the tires off the frame. (can keep the tires more tucked into the fenders as well to keep the vintage look) You could also keep the rear section narrow in case you want to make it four wheel steer down the road! ; )

In the mean time though, to facilitate wheeling sooner, maybe just fix what you need to on the current frame and just plan for the custom frame sometime down the road!
 
Thanks @87GMCJimmy ! That’s some of the info I’m looking for. The factory width at the front is 23” from inside to inside of rail. That’s about as narrow as it can get. I’ll ponder on the rear, factory width is 37”.
The main reason I’m not patching this frame is because it’s from an 85’ model and I would have to cut off basically all of my mounts anyway to make the cab mounts work. With that much work, I might as well make a frame and make it better!
 
I was waiting for that option to appear.
 
Considering the frame, body, drivetrain, "in play" (contributed to some of the madness), custom frame is almost required! Be it modified stock or built, a lot of welding! My mother-in-law is coming in to town for a week around Xmas, need something to do!
 
49willys said:
Considering the frame, body, drivetrain, "in play" (contributed to some of the madness), custom frame is almost required! Be it modified stock or built, a lot of welding! My mother-in-law is coming in to town for a week around Xmas, need something to do!
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This is very true! Stock or custom built, there’s a lot of work either way. And honestly I think I can build a frame faster than modifying the original one. And it will be better quality.
I may be wrong , but I’m going to find out because I pick up the tubing Saturday and start on the frame build. @49willys you’re more than welcome to come down anytime and hangout.
 
SNOWzuki said:
I was waiting for that option to appear.
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Me too. But that’s not what I want. There is nothing better than a Jeep , but I am going to have something different. I have been down the Jeep road with a pretty capable JKU. But ultimately it was nothing but cookie cutter. Hell I could have put tons and 40s under it and it would still have been nothing special. I like to be different. Yes, The Toyota drive train setup I’m running is nothing special, it’s simple, dependable and works. What will make it non cookie cutter is the finished product when the cab is mated to the chassis. It will be nothing special but it will be different and I believe it will Work pretty well. I don’t expect the Jeep people to like it , but that’s why it’s the black sheep....every family has one and we have to tolerate them.....especially during the holiday season!!:flipoff2:
 
I like the Toyota style too!
Rock it Black Sheep Bro!:rockon:

We know you will!:beer:
 
Nakoma said:
Thanks @87GMCJimmy ! That’s some of the info I’m looking for. The factory width at the front is 23” from inside to inside of rail. That’s about as narrow as it can get. I’ll ponder on the rear, factory width is 37”.
The main reason I’m not patching this frame is because it’s from an 85’ model and I would have to cut off basically all of my mounts anyway to make the cab mounts work. With that much work, I might as well make a frame and make it better!
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Ah, 10-4! Sorry, somehow I didn't catch that about the cab mounts. Yeah, sounds like custom is definitely the way to go!
 
Saw this at Wally world and thought of you. Keep on trucking man cause I know whatever you decide to do it's going to be cool!
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Just catching up on this thread. Good work so far, wish I had that drive still.

I would build the frame section from engine mounts to rear of cab. Plan for cutting the can floor and flat belly the frame.

I would then build the suspension and axles under it, and that will help determine what the frame needs to look like. Since you will need to trim the fenders anyway, I would try to push the wb out a little, esp in front. It doesn't take much tire to get into the firewall.

I would also plan fitment around a bigger tire, as you might decide to upgrade later.
 
Nakoma said:
Thanks, but just to clarify, I did not do the Sand blasting. Landmark coatings in mocksville done it. And I highly recommend them for any blasting or powder coating. They do a great job and are great to deal with!
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Did you get to see his rat rod? Very good guy.You where 12min. From my place.
 
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