....Black Sheep....

Discussion in 'Carolina Trailblazers' started by Nakoma, Jul 29, 2018.

  1. Chris_Keziah

    Chris_Keziah Joe Dirt

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    As @adamk says and @77GreenMachine goes along with, "Let me help you spend your money"
     
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  2. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    I value any suggestions or ideas. (Mainly because I don’t know what the hell i’m doing)! And Chris knows more than I do about Toyota stuff.
    but with that said, I am going to build the frame to mimic the factory frame, just without all the flaws! (Hopefully):D:beer:
    I’ll post pics when done. :beer::rockon:
     
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  3. Chris_Keziah

    Chris_Keziah Joe Dirt

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    I like how this has progress from a mild build on 35's and leafs to now a custom frame and links. I won't be surprised at this point if an F-Toy kit isn't on the table.
     
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  4. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    The only F-toy I know about is a......well that would have to be posted in the NSFW thread!!
     
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  5. adamk

    adamk Well-Known Member

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    It's fun getting others to spend money...especially when you get to use/help build the items bought haha
     
  6. CasterTroy

    CasterTroy Motarded

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    Will you ZIP IT!!


    I want this truck out on the trails before 2026. Any further high-dives into that rabbit hole and he'll be so deep (in debt, in trouble, and past the point of no return) he may be too old and cripple to finish :cool:

    K.I.S.S. and get it out on the trail FIRST...then we can upgrade :rockon:
     
  7. Chris_Keziah

    Chris_Keziah Joe Dirt

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    He's already further along than most would be at this point, I think Nakoma's drive to get back on the trails in his own rig will have this thing done by the summer.
     
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  8. obullfish

    obullfish Well-Known Member

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    @Nakoma when you get your plan layed out you know all you have to do is post it so we can tell you how wrong you are. You are making pretty good time so far and wish I was closer to be able to help ya ( aka heckle in person).
     
  9. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    Damn I hope! But y’all gonna have to keep me from chasing rabbits!
     
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  10. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    Me too! It would be good times for sure!
     
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  11. Chris_Keziah

    Chris_Keziah Joe Dirt

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    Then go buy a new frame and leave it on leafs for now, if you keep moving at the rate you have been then you'll be ready for the February ride. Then build a new frame while still wheeling the pickup and swap the frame and link it next winter.
     
  12. 87GMCJimmy

    87GMCJimmy Well-Known Member

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    If you plan on keeping stock width axles, I would go as about as narrow for the front section of the frame as you can with your desired engine (since you won't have to keep it wide enough for leaf mounts if you're going coilovers) that way you can get full steering angle with large tires without having to go with hugely offset wheels to keep the tires off the frame. (can keep the tires more tucked into the fenders as well to keep the vintage look) You could also keep the rear section narrow in case you want to make it four wheel steer down the road! ; )

    In the mean time though, to facilitate wheeling sooner, maybe just fix what you need to on the current frame and just plan for the custom frame sometime down the road!
     
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  13. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @87GMCJimmy ! That’s some of the info I’m looking for. The factory width at the front is 23” from inside to inside of rail. That’s about as narrow as it can get. I’ll ponder on the rear, factory width is 37”.
    The main reason I’m not patching this frame is because it’s from an 85’ model and I would have to cut off basically all of my mounts anyway to make the cab mounts work. With that much work, I might as well make a frame and make it better!
     
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  14. amcjeepman

    amcjeepman Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum Moderator

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    Buy a Jeep. :D
     
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  15. SNOWzuki

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    I was waiting for that option to appear.
     
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  16. 49willys

    49willys Well-Known Member

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    Considering the frame, body, drivetrain, "in play" (contributed to some of the madness), custom frame is almost required! Be it modified stock or built, a lot of welding! My mother-in-law is coming in to town for a week around Xmas, need something to do!
     
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  17. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    This is very true! Stock or custom built, there’s a lot of work either way. And honestly I think I can build a frame faster than modifying the original one. And it will be better quality.
    I may be wrong , but I’m going to find out because I pick up the tubing Saturday and start on the frame build. @49willys you’re more than welcome to come down anytime and hangout.
     
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  18. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    Me too. But that’s not what I want. There is nothing better than a Jeep , but I am going to have something different. I have been down the Jeep road with a pretty capable JKU. But ultimately it was nothing but cookie cutter. Hell I could have put tons and 40s under it and it would still have been nothing special. I like to be different. Yes, The Toyota drive train setup I’m running is nothing special, it’s simple, dependable and works. What will make it non cookie cutter is the finished product when the cab is mated to the chassis. It will be nothing special but it will be different and I believe it will Work pretty well. I don’t expect the Jeep people to like it , but that’s why it’s the black sheep....every family has one and we have to tolerate them.....especially during the holiday season!!:flipoff2:
     
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  19. CasterTroy

    CasterTroy Motarded

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    It will be different, and the COOLEST damn thing on the trail
     
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  20. SNOWzuki

    SNOWzuki Well-Known Member

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    I like the Toyota style too!
    Rock it Black Sheep Bro!:rockon:

    We know you will!:beer:
     
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  21. 87GMCJimmy

    87GMCJimmy Well-Known Member

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    Ah, 10-4! Sorry, somehow I didn't catch that about the cab mounts. Yeah, sounds like custom is definitely the way to go!
     
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  22. Joe J.

    Joe J. Well-Known Member

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    Saw this at Wally world and thought of you. Keep on trucking man cause I know whatever you decide to do it's going to be cool![​IMG]

    Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
     
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  23. Nakoma

    Nakoma Well-Known Member

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    That’s funny as hell! I should have marketed that saying 20 years ago!
     
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  24. paradisePWoffrd

    paradisePWoffrd Recovering Project Junkie

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    Just catching up on this thread. Good work so far, wish I had that drive still.

    I would build the frame section from engine mounts to rear of cab. Plan for cutting the can floor and flat belly the frame.

    I would then build the suspension and axles under it, and that will help determine what the frame needs to look like. Since you will need to trim the fenders anyway, I would try to push the wb out a little, esp in front. It doesn't take much tire to get into the firewall.

    I would also plan fitment around a bigger tire, as you might decide to upgrade later.
     
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  25. WARRIORWELDING

    WARRIORWELDING Owner opperator Of WarriorWelding LLC.

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    Did you get to see his rat rod? Very good guy.You where 12min. From my place.
     
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