finally my XJ to keep for good, innovative

paradisePWoffrd said:
The more weld passes you put in that small section of unibody the weaker it becomes. The plate is a good start but you need to spread the load across a larger area. The plate should cover the side of the "frame" atleast 4" to the front & rear with plug welding holes in it. That mixed with frame stiffeners would be a good start.
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I believe some stitch welds would be better also. I'm a Newb at this too and he may actually teach me something.
 
I love these threads, they are entertaining to say the least. Your build is an expression of yourself, your abilities, and your vision. You've got to make sure its all done to the best of your ability, knowledge, and financial capacity. Not all of us can afford to build "big expensive rock buggies" or whatever the fuck you called them, but that doesn't stop us from building safe, reliable, capable rigs. Yours, while "unique", is none of those. Some of the folks here can be asshats, no doubt, as can I, but they offer sound advice and criticism. They only want you to be able to get the most out of what you have, while doing it safely.

An example is my first legitimate build, a 96 zj done on the cheap. I didnt do a build thread regrettably, but I did tons of research, amd asked questions when I needed. Granted, It's nothing "innovative", it is an example of a cheap build done safely and done right. Keep in mind, I didn't make shit for money then, and I just bought parts when I could.

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-Started as a $400 half blown up stocker.
-$500 rolled zj, parted out and scrapped, total $150 in engine/trans

Wheeled and DD stock for several months
-$450 4.5" rough country lift kit (New lower arms, pair of springs, shocks)
-$550 4.56 gears and install kits (installed myself, first time ever)
-$600 trutrac limited slips, front and rear
-$600 33" tires
-$200 4.75bs wheels.

(Much more $$$ into it now, but this was the initial build)

Now, that's right at about $3k for a capable street friendly rig. This was done over the course of eight months since initial purchase, mostly with my tax refund and a small bonus from work. It's easy to build a safe, capable, cheap rig.IIt can be done far cheaper than $3k even, especially if you don't care to remain street legal. You're in luck too siince you have a thing for Cherokees, as parts for them are typically cheaper, they sometimes don't need regearing, and used lifts are pretty easy to come by.

Please, for the love of all things holy, take the damned advice of folks here and at least consider it. It will help you have a cleaner, more capable rig, and if nothing else, do it for the safety of yourself and those around you.
 
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Please dont ever bring that thing anywhere near Cleveland County. If you cant afford to do things right, then just save until you can. There are a ton of good people on this site. They will help you as long as you are receptive. I have asked for advice, recieved it, and used it. 99% of the guys you are bashing have built numerous rigs and know what they are talking about.
 
Ive never bashed anyone until people fill my threads up with their "deathtrap" comments and tell me im some inbred sumbass. Get ur act straight, but bracket advise taken and someday my deathtrap wil be right along side some of these guys and just might be surprised., when shes more complete
 
I am very disappointed right now. I found this in a search for body protection. I just got about 30 pieces of trampoline frame and was hoping to use them on my Explorer. I looked at the thread and thought I was missing photos because I was not a member so I registered and NO PHOTOS! Could you please post a photo of the body protection so I can see what you did?
 
dandydave said:
I am very disappointed right now. I found this in a search for body protection. I just got about 30 pieces of trampoline frame and was hoping to use them on my Explorer. I looked at the thread and thought I was missing photos because I was not a member so I registered and NO PHOTOS! Could you please post a photo of the body protection so I can see what you did?
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You can't be serious?


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88jeepster said:
Ive never bashed anyone until people fill my threads up with their "deathtrap" comments and tell me im some inbred sumbass. Get ur act straight, but bracket advise taken and someday my deathtrap wil be right along side some of these guys and just might be surprised., when shes more complete
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Ok so someone called your rig a deathtrap and you were offended. That's a reasonable response.
Now lets look further into that interaction.

We can most likely conclude that 1 of 2 scenarios are responsible for someone calling your rig a deathtrap.
1- That person is a big meany and just likes picking on you.
2- That person is accurate and your rig is, in fact, un safe.

Without seeing lots of picks and typing literally hundreds of paragraphs explaining engineering, physics, etc. It is hard to analyze whther that person is accuate.
I will therefor look for more evidence.

Judging by multiple posts it appears that several people, all very knowledgeable and respected and many of each having built more rigs than some people have ridden in, all conclude that your rig is in fact a deathtrap. Again we can assume one of two things is factual here

1- The entire group is a mob and runs off new and innovative ideas and builders. In short the entire group are all big meanies.
2- The group is accurate and your rig is, in fact, unsafe.

Again we have to draw some conclusions.

NC4x4 is still expanding and adding new members every month. New people are welcomed and accepted every month from all over the globe. So it isn't the fact that this is a group of closed minded individuals who hate anything new as tey have shown themselves welcoming to other new members. It is the fact that as a whole many find your rig and builds to be unsafe and hope that you will learn from their experience.

But instead of listening and learning you rant and rave about social media, socio economic injustice, and monsters under the bed.
Mommy isnt here. She isnt going to tell you we are all big meanies.
You need to grow up and accept that you are not TODAY a fabricator who has any business doing what you are doing to modify vehicles. What you are doing is un wise, unsafe and in some cases illegal.

I have no personal beef with you, Id gladly have a beer with you, or a coke if you are more inclined and swap stories, I am sure you would be entertaining. You certainly have a passion for the sport and you are clealry not lazy as you are definiely out there building something. I think those traits are rather admirable. Someone with passion, motivation, work ethic and intelligence can obtain anythign they desire given training. I feel strongly you possess 3 of the 4, that is not an insult merely me saying I cant speak to your intelligence. I can say that you are ignorant of proper fabrication techniques. Ignorance is not an insult it merely means you have not yet been taught. Continually ignoring teaching and proclaiming you know best will quickly move you from ignroant to the stupid category.

I hope you stick around and learn from some folks here.

I feel certain you will rant and rave at me and tell me how big and mean I am.

You have guys in this thread who have built many many rigs for themselves and paying customers. (Not a buddy giving you a hundred bucks to put a lift kit on, people who have paid thousands or tens of thousands of dollars for them to fabricate full blown rigs for them, rigs that have been in magazines, on TV etc.)

Please heed their advice.
 
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You can't be serious?


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I took it a sarcasm. At least I hope it is. Who knows. Its a new screen name. Maybe Jeepster has gone undercover to make us think someone actually likes it.

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I took it a sarcasm. At least I hope it is. Who knows. Its a new screen name. Maybe Jeepster has gone undercover to make us think someone actually likes it.

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Here is a pic of the ridiculousness called "body armor".

I would hope it is sarcasm, but jeepster does claim to have offspring. What a scary thought.
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I agree with Ron.... we are all just a bunch of big meanies.....

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HAPPY said:
I agree with Ron.... we are all just a bunch of big meanies.....

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No...being mean would be forwarding the link to this thread to one of the Boone PD officers or Watauga County Sheriffs in my phone. THAT would be mean.

:shaking: I love the fact that the this flying pile of metal and booger welds has a license plate on it in that picture but in the OP it clearly states he has no title for it.
 
StretchASU said:
No...being mean would be forwarding the link to this thread to one of the Boone PD officers or Watauga County Sheriffs in my phone. THAT would be mean.

:shaking: I love the fact that the this flying pile of metal and booger welds has a license plate on it in that picture but in the OP it clearly states he has no title for it.
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It was a nice jeep before it started. I have a hard time believing its a salvage or something like that. Makes you wonder if there is $ owed there.

Illegal tag maybe?

Surely he wouldn't lie.....

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dandydave said:
Thanks for the photo, I'm an older gent but he may be my long lost son? And I DO have a truck load of the trampoline parts.
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Give Jeepster a call. I'm sure he would take the trampoline parts off your hands. He might even trade you some cool custom tail lights for them.

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shawn said:
Give it a try! Last time, I used some of those good Wal-Mart welding batteries. Laid down some beads that made Chris Marshall question his manhood.
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Hey don't bring my name into this. I don't wanna have anything to do with this thread ;) Google might give somebody the wrong idea an bout me!


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MarsFab said:
Hey don't bring my name into this. I don't wanna have anything to do with this thread ;) Google might give somebody the wrong idea an bout me!
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You're just jealous of my coat hanger welds and don't want anybody to know it. :flipoff2:
 
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