Malaysia MH370

I've been buggin a good friend who works for a the "airways" about this... and he keeps using cryptics terms... More or less he is saying the plane is landed... safely... and the passengers may or may not be hostages... but that it could be anywhere within several hundred miles of point X.

Ha! I called that on post 3.... I'll laugh if my Holiday Inn Express conjecture actually wins the prize.

 
This is just crazy beyond belief. Reading all these crazy theories makes you laugh, but then start to wonder. My first initial reaction is that the plane went down in the ocean somewhere and sank very quickly...but then I think about if it were hijacked....whats the point of hijacking a plane to just take it down in the ocean where noone would see or find it? The only other thought that is swimming through my head is that it has landed somewhere, for what reason, I can't fathom.

Do I think the government knows? sure.
If it was a hostage situation, do i think the government would tell us? absolutely not.

Im not even sure, once the news stations find out what "really" happened that Ill 100% believe it.
 
No way our gov't doesn't know what happened to the plane.
 
....whats the point of hijacking a plane to just take it down in the ocean where noone would see or find it?

Some religions teach that if you die in martyrdom you receive 72 virgins as a reward. That being said, have you ever wheeled with 72 newbies before? I'll take experienced participants every time.
 
Some religions teach that if you die in martyrdom you receive 72 virgins as a reward. That being said, have you ever wheeled with 72 newbies before? I'll take experienced participants every time.

Besides if you dont proclaim your great deeds who knows how genius you were.

Rest assured if the plane was hijacked AND crashed/met its demise some group some where would proclaim from the heavens their victory.
 
No way our gov't doesn't know what happened to the plane.

Interesting thing I read earlier today... is that most references in the news to the plane being on "radar" are incorrect. Flight controllers typically don't use radar. They're looking at a screen that is a lot like a radar screen, but is just showing blips that are basically data packets sent by the planes themselves. So if the plane disappears from "radar", all that means is that the blips stopped.

Actual radar systems are only used in military, areas where there is a heavy military/civilian overlap, or in certain areas along the coast of the US.

And even then, if the plane was visible on radar, it would be difficult to isolate it from all of the other unidentified blips and then track it across multiple radar installations. Radar is basically line-of-sight, so once something gets 20+ miles out, your ability to see it is hindered by the height of your radar antenna AGL and the surrounding geography. Edit: and, of course, the elevation of the object AGL. Something that's 5 miles up will be visible from farther away than something that's only at 5k ft.
 
My guess is it is sitting in North Korea being loaded up for 'other' purposes. I didn't inspect the flight range closely from the CNN reports but it seems 5 hrs of flying would put it about right. If not there, I'd be looking for Pakistan. I'm sure the Chinese and US gov are aware of it's whereabouts.
 
I think the most interesting aspect is the war game sscenario.

I ikewise suspect that the Chinese and US MILITARY have a very good idea where this plane is, or at least was. The challenge is how much either will reveal that may provide intel into their tech capability.


Then there is the conspiracy of conspiracies I read last night.

I wont bother linking the garbage but the thought went: The Russians hijacked the plane specifically to get the US AND China involved to get each to reveal their aircaft tracking technology as a counter spy typoe measure to kow how vulnerable each may be to various aerial assaults.
 
My guess is it is sitting in North Korea being loaded up for 'other' purposes. I didn't inspect the flight range closely from the CNN reports but it seems 5 hrs of flying would put it about right. If not there, I'd be looking for Pakistan. I'm sure the Chinese and US gov are aware of it's whereabouts.

makes perfect sense..........some reports say some very intellegent, high tech, computery type peeps were on the plane and it may have been highjacked to obtain those persons and their knowledge. So it makes sense that gubmnts would be planning their next move, and acting like they have no idea what happened to the plane to suprise the hostage takers.
 
Nah..Chuck Noris had a birthday the other day...he is bloated and tired...they need a couple days before they unleash him single handedly on the hijackers....this is all s stall game
 


I was more imagining a 100lb back of ammonium nitrate strapped in each seat but yours is probably more along their line of thinking. Actually what a guy at work mentioned made sense that they'd fly it toward something of important with the people on board and then force someone to make a decision to shoot it down. Ah, this conspiracy stuff is crazy, it's probably at the bottom of the ocean but I just can't believe that something that big isn't on some kind of satellite or radar tracking device that one of the major militaries or spy agencies must have in place. Maybe I'm naive but I figure everytime a nat farts they are aware of it.
 
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If it is indeed at the bottom of an ocean, lets say the indian ocean...are there no subs from any country or naval force in those waters that can track something that large with sonar?
I did hear a report saying that the indian ocean is probably the least explored body of water....but some of the theories needs to be made into a movie....the one about the hijackers knowing who was on board and their skills to help create something or execute a plan is genius.
 
Let's see if I can come up with the most far-fetched, but still plausible approach here and leave out all of the conspiracy theory crap for a second and work through this. Is it possible that....

This is not terrorism per se, but they used terrorist tactics to take over a plane in an effort to "steal" it. Plane disappears off radar by disabling the couple of independent electrical systems that are used to track the plan (as they apparently did 14 minutes apart) This was done at a point where the towers "handed off" the plane on their radar screens so there is a window where nobody is really watching it real closely. The plan is taken over and landed safely "somewhere" and hidden. Passengers are killed or held hostage with the understanding that their release is to be negotiated.

In the meantime, US warships have been dispatched to the search area in reconnaissance mode and less combat ready since tensions are already high between the US and practically everyone else. Eyes on Crimea, etc. so that while US is looking elsewhere, a different attack is being planned. Misdirection. The real question is who... my money is still on Russia.
 
If it is indeed at the bottom of an ocean, lets say the indian ocean...are there no subs from any country or naval force in those waters that can track something that large with sonar?
I did hear a report saying that the indian ocean is probably the least explored body of water....but some of the theories needs to be made into a movie....the one about the hijackers knowing who was on board and their skills to help create something or execute a plan is genius.


If it hit the water at the speeds necessary to leave radar the way it did..."that large" is probably the size of a basketball at biggest the piece of scrap
 
I can't help but feel that, given all the information coming out about this, that we are on the verge of something very big. One missing plane with 239 people could very well change the entire world.

To me, there is no way this wasn't intentional. I can't quite believe the plane crashed.
 
I can't help but feel that, given all the information coming out about this, that we are on the verge of something very big. One missing plane with 239 people could very well change the entire world.

To me, there is no way this wasn't intentional. I can't quite believe the plane crashed.

I agree, I believe it could have crashed, but I also believe some debris would have been found by now if it did.
 
I agree, I believe it could have crashed, but I also believe some debris would have been found by now if it did.

I don't think you understand how large the search area is.
 
When Abby Sunderland's boat was dismasted in the southern Indian Ocean, the nearest boat was 400 miles away. It took them 2-1/2 days to reach her, and they knew exactly where she was (EPIRB).
 
When Abby Sunderland's boat was dismasted in the southern Indian Ocean, the nearest boat was 400 miles away. It took them 2-1/2 days to reach her, and they knew exactly where she was (EPIRB).


Should I know who that is?

Or did you discover her when you were on your sailing kick a few years ago?
 
No, this was before that.
 
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