OVER WEIGHT TICKETS SUCK!

Caver Dave said:
Most of the questions regarding weighted tags are covered HERE.

Rather than make a $250-300 wheeling weekend a $500+ weekend... I ponied up for a weighted tag back when I got the Ferd.
Truck = 6000# (both the old F250 4x4 and the current D350 scaled the same)
Trailer = 2200#
Jeep = 4000#
That leaves 800# (and reportedly another 999# "leeway" to the next 1000# tag) for trail/camping gear on my 13K# tag.

While you may "save money" doing the tickets over the tags, there's a VERY strong chance that should you ever have an accident... the insurance company will hang you out to dry! POR had several threads chronicling folks towing over the GVWR or under-tagged in accidents. The outcome (complete financial ruin after the civil suits + criminal charges & jail time) should scare all of us!
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Why would the insurance company care what fees you paid?

All they should care about is was you truck rated to tow what you were hauling.

If I have a 1/2 ton truck and paid for 20k tags then will the NCDOT hassel me? I would say they Should

When I lived in california your tags cover the rating of the truck. and no other fees were ever needed.

What would happen you refused to let them weigh your rig?

I say we Change the law
 
Ridgerunner said:
Why would the insurance company care what fees you paid?
I say we Change the law
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The insurance companies shouldn't cover anything it your over you vehicles rated CGVW, and yes they will hang you out to dry but they don't care how much your tag is rated for.

We do need to have a few laws changed should have a light duty tag(pick ups and vans 1/2-1 tons), medium duty(1 1/4 ton and higher), and a heavy duty tag(big rigs) simple every one pays the same for there vehicles class.
Law enforcement needs to be on the ball and get those who are using there vehicles for commercial purposes(Time Warner stands out in my mind) and not tagged properly vs John Q. Public who use there vehicle to tow and are properly registered.
 
SkyHiK5 said:
NO none of this makes you a racist....
However this
maurice a stereotypical black name
brownell (brown?)
lopez now we just went hispanic to boot interesting
cadillac on 26s yeah thats usually white guys too....
dont make it a racial issue.
You dont know who is reading what or will be offended...
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But it's ok to make fun of trucks with lift blocks and 40" ground hawgs, while always assuming they're a redneck?
Just checking for future reference.



What pisses me off is the fact that I have to register and tag my trailer, then pay extra for the tag on my truck to tow it.
That's certainly not a federal law.

And it's true, when do you ever see the sanford and son looking truck that's towing three cords of wood in a truckbed trailer pulled over? Now how often do you see the guys with a nice toyhauler or brand new trailer with a nice car/truck on it that are sitting there with the NCHP tahoes?
 
Before I towed out west, I asked the state DOT authority (in S.C. --->three separate offices just to make sure), and for MY state I was told that on my Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 MC, all that they would go by was what I was tagged for, and that I didn't go over the 26,000 GCWR <----for license purposes not tag purposes, as I would need a CDL license at that point.

My gross vehicle rating on my truck is under 10,000 lbs.
My GCWR on my truck is 20,000 lbs.
My combined weight towing to Moab with both jeeps on my 40' trailer was 23,950lbs.

I asked the DOT officer about the door jamb ratings and he asked me what I was tagged for, I told him I was tagged at 25,000 lbs, which it shows on my registration, and I am towing a weight close to 24,000lbs. he said i was fine.

He told me he could care less what my GVWR and GCWR is, as he goes by axle weight, as the GVWR and GCWR was a manufactuer's reccomendation <---straight from his mouth, and I would never exceed what he could write me for on my size truck. I confirmed this with the two other offices with the same response, and I even was given the DOT inspector's cell phone number if I was to have any problem while on the road.

I also called my insurance company (USAA) to make sure about the door jamb ratings. They said they had no disclaimers on my policy stating they would not cover an over weight vehicle, or could classify it as negligence. She said they wouldn't want to cover me if I was involved in a MVA while intoxicated (negligent) but they would, she said that is why I pay money for the coverage. My only disclaimers are not to race under a timed event for profit, and something about mold and mildew. Thats it. Your experience may vary, but I traveled with all this info, phone numbers, officers names, insurance agents names, the report number for our taped conversation, the whole nine yards.

I feel that I am adequately covered, and I have tried my best to gather the most correct info that I could.


J.R.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Why would the insurance company care what fees you paid?
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They wouldn't normally, just another loophole for them to use as leverage to weasel out on bro! Just like you having a window smashed and them NOT covering the $1000 firearm or stereo stolen when making a claim. Or like a large claim made due to an accident($100K + if a couple rigs get totaled, severe injury or death isn't a hard number reach quick!) where the "hauler" is under the GVWR, but under tagged... you'd better believe the insurance company will crawl up your @$$ with a microscope looking for a reason to deny the claims. Then guess who gets saddled with the bills?


braxton357 said:
And it's true, when do you ever see the sanford and son looking truck that's towing three cords of wood in a truckbed trailer pulled over? Now how often do you see the guys with a nice toyhauler or brand new trailer with a nice car/truck on it that are sitting there with the NCHP tahoes?
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I agree. No idea if it's anything other than "circumstance" :shaking:, but dang sure holds true around here! Also makes me wonder about the farmers hauling GNs with rolled hay bales stacked 3 high, hanging 2' over the sides & back!
 
so a 20k tag is 400+ per yeasr then how much is a 15k tag?
 
thats no too bad then
 
saf-t scissors said:
It's not, but it's still incorrect.

Straight from Chapter 20:
(3) Class C. – A Class C license authorizes the holder to drive any of the following:

a. A Class C motor vehicle that is not a commercial motor vehicle.

b. When operated by a volunteer member of a fire department, a rescue squad, or an emergency medical service (EMS) in the performance of duty, a Class A or Class B fire‑fighting, rescue, or EMS motor vehicle or a combination of these vehicles.

c. A combination of noncommercial motor vehicles that have a GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds but less than 26,001 pounds. This sub‑subdivision does not apply to a Class C license holder less than 18 years of age.
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It still pisses me off that I'm in a catch-22. My trailer tops 10k by just a couple hundred pounds. My wife, who has never pulled a trailer before, can pull it legally with her standard class "C". I have a class "B" CDL...and am stuck at the 10k limit. :(d
 
If your car is beat up with 20s and armorall... You are probably a mexican.

If you wear glasses and a pocket protector... You are probably a nerd.

If you have a set of 44s on a yota with 64 in of lift... You are probably a redneck.

If you have spinners on a Denali then...

That is not racism. It's just being observant. If youi think that is racism... Call Hillary Clinton for a job, or stick something fleshy and 8 in long in your mouth.
 
SkyHiK5 said:
However this


maurice a stereotypical black name
brownell (brown?)
lopez now we just went hispanic to boot interesting
cadillac on 26s yeah thats usually white guys too....
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But how do you know small45 isn't 1/2 black, 1/2 mexican? :lol:
 
just curious...when they pull you for a "weight check", do they simply look at your registration? or do they check it in the computer?

for instance...I had mine tagged at 13,000lbs, then reduced it to 7,000 (don't have a trailer anymore, and haven't cranked the TJ in a year :()

the original registration I have stating 13,000# has not expired, as far as the date is concerned...it's just been updated with a new copy/weight?

With the full knowledge that it is not correct to give them the old one...what would really happen on the side of the road as far as a ticket goes? Where are they getting their info?

Greg
 
The weight rating for the tag is in the computor. If you made a change it will be in there too. If you took one tag off and put another one on it, and someone ran the old tag, it will even say the old one is no longer on the vehicle.
 
Gotta love the SUV.
A place to sleep and a regular tag...:flipoff2:

I have the statute printed out and in my console in the Suburban for when I do get pulled, by a trooper who doesn't know the law.
It has already happened in the Commando when I stopped getting it inspected (35+ years old). I had to show the law to the officer. He apologized and sent me on my way.
 
weighed in at the scales today. The e250 van and the trailer with xj weighed in at 12,500 #. Damn she's fat.
 
After reading this thread,I went out and bought a 17000 pound tag,$234.10 later....ouch,cheaper than a ticket.
 
hopefully not for the suburban listed in your sig?? otherwise, you just wasted money.
 
Well I drove from RDU to high point then on to Boone this AM, and back to RDU.. and on my way to boone going threw wilkesboro I saw 2 trucks pulled over by highway patrol.. both truck had big trailer with heavy loads.. my guess is they were checking tags, etc..

just FYI.
 
Got hassled by the man yesterday on the way to DPG. In charlotte I rolling down 77 with my buggy and trailor behind the truck (i was already frusterated with having tow rig problems earlier that morning) and i see a state trooper get on an exit ahead of me. He sees me and proceeds to slam on the breaks and get behind me with the flashing blue lights. OBVIOUSLY LOOKING for a a reason to pull me over. I will give you my tag on the trailor was expired. I was ready to take a ticket for that and move on, but he holds me for about an hour while he gingerly dips my tanks and weighs me.

The tool bag had the audasity to weigh me even though i had a 20,000 pound tag and was pulling a small car trailor with my buggy on it. :shaking: The other thing that really pissed me off at the time was the fact he didnt come to my drivers side front door at first, he went to the rear passenger and looked through my stuff in the back seat without even saying a word to me, and then hasseling me about an "AGGRESSIVE PAINTBALL GUN". I was probably the nicest person that trooper talked to this month trying to get out of that ticket. If i had known he was going to hold me for so long for something so dumb i would have been a little less helpful :lol: . The trooper then did not even know the fines or what the ticket does. He was like "im not sure but this may have a point value to it". Im pretty sure a ticket for expired tag doesnt have a point value. :shaking:
 
farmboy said:
Im pretty sure a ticket for expired tag doesnt have a point value. :shaking:
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it doesn't. in fact, as long as you get it renewed before your court date and take the new registration with you there's a 99% chance it'll be dropped.
 
RufusTheRam said:
it doesn't. in fact, as long as you get it renewed before your court date and take the new registration with you there's a 99% chance it'll be dropped.
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the ticket is only for $25, but the court cost is $121. Such bull. I dont think you can get the court cost dropped no matter what.
 
no, if it's dropped it's dropped... court costs included. i'm not aware of any county in nc that actively tries to stick it to you on expired registration unless there is some extenuating circumstance. on principle, it's considered to be a "fix it" ticket. the hassle of you having to show up to court is deemed punishment enough. obviously there's always the small chance you run into a da/ada that's in a bad mood or wants to make an example of you, but even then you still have the recourse to request a continuance or some other motion if they won't agree to drop it.

some of the more rural counties that don't have a very high volume of cases will even dismiss the case before the court date if you call the da's office and fax proof of registration or take it by their office. don't count on anything like that if you were in mecklenburg though, you'll have to show up on your date.
 
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